Starting to get upset with the evo..
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Agree with Jordan, your order of operations in building a high powered car were off, but you are taking the correct steps in fixing that.
I think if you added cams and meth and a good tune your car will start to shine...
What traps are you hitting with the setup?
I think if you added cams and meth and a good tune your car will start to shine...
What traps are you hitting with the setup?
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First of all, I'm 18 as well and have IX with a turbo kit on it so don't take it as hating I'm just trying to help you. The first thing I did was try to show you that your turbo spools slow but correctly slow. You were saying your turbo is spooling slower than 37 and 40R's you see in videos. Now most people who go with larger turbo's know that you now need to downshift to accelerate. The only reason spool would be a problem is DD. Racing on the track or on the street you should learn the powerband of your car and always be in it. So, by complaining about spool you are complaining about street driveability. Right? You chose a 35R for crazy top end power so don't expect it going WOT @ 3000 RPM on the street. Drop a gear and let it rip.
If it's not running right at full throttle, it's probably not running great at part throttle either. Maybe with no boost but I get into boost all the time with my DD 50 trim. You say your complaining about it not making power but you say it was mostly your fault. Then you say secondly it's not running right which you say it IS in part 1. Which is it? It runs ok around town but not when you get on it? Either way you say its because you rushed the tuner then never got it fixed. Ok, do that, then report back.
The spool does sound a bit slow but pretty much normal for a poorly tuned 35R on pump gas and a stock motor/head/cams.
If it's not running right at full throttle, it's probably not running great at part throttle either. Maybe with no boost but I get into boost all the time with my DD 50 trim. You say your complaining about it not making power but you say it was mostly your fault. Then you say secondly it's not running right which you say it IS in part 1. Which is it? It runs ok around town but not when you get on it? Either way you say its because you rushed the tuner then never got it fixed. Ok, do that, then report back.
The spool does sound a bit slow but pretty much normal for a poorly tuned 35R on pump gas and a stock motor/head/cams.
1. Go to a reliable tuner like TTP (they are in FL)
2. triple check your turbo install, make sure everything is torqued and seated properly. If problem persits get it checked out with an evo specialist shop like TTP.
3. Do a boost-leak test
4. AT 5k your car should be in warp speed and the turbo should be fully spooled, so something is not correct.
2. triple check your turbo install, make sure everything is torqued and seated properly. If problem persits get it checked out with an evo specialist shop like TTP.
3. Do a boost-leak test
4. AT 5k your car should be in warp speed and the turbo should be fully spooled, so something is not correct.
If in fact the 35r turbo is not a 35r ,.... your "tuner" should have noticed. Running a large turbo is laggy enough but if you have no timing... its that much worse. Im pretty sure timing has some effect on spool. Maybe you should look into getting it tuned elsewhere. It seems like your always trying to get it tuned properly and cant get it done. You have had this kit on your car for a long time now... i assume you paid for a good tune.. you should get one
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good thing you said something before i got worrid jordan lol
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113/114 MPH
You know the problem Chris, and have asked me many times...
You skipped too many steps and thats why i rape you on stock turbo...
Once you get that meth on there and get someone familiar with evo's to tune it you'll be much happier and might have a fighting chance against me ;-p
You skipped too many steps and thats why i rape you on stock turbo...
Once you get that meth on there and get someone familiar with evo's to tune it you'll be much happier and might have a fighting chance against me ;-p
Sorry about that, I should have read his mod list before I repied, I forget sometimes that i have the built block lol. No headwork though. My apologies
I don't run a 35R so I'm just guessing. But most of the people that I've seen running a larger turbo has upgraded cams. I didn't see any cam upgrade on your signature so I'm guessing it could be a possibility to why you're not spooling as quick or as hard as you wanted it to be. Plus most of them are running Methanol injection or some sort which also helps.
You need to take the car to someone who has tuned a few IX's. With the stock 9 cams and a good mivec map you should be able to spool that 35r sooner than you are currently. Also, like other have said, do a boost leak test.
What boost controller are you using? If it's an ebc, then you may want to check out how it is setup that could cause spool delay for sure if not properly configured. You basically want it configured to stay at 100% duty cycle until you are close to your desired boost level then drop to the set duty cycle, profec calls this "start boost" if set too low, turbo spools late, too high it spikes on spoolup.
What boost controller are you using? If it's an ebc, then you may want to check out how it is setup that could cause spool delay for sure if not properly configured. You basically want it configured to stay at 100% duty cycle until you are close to your desired boost level then drop to the set duty cycle, profec calls this "start boost" if set too low, turbo spools late, too high it spikes on spoolup.
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why does you being 17 have anyhting to do with a modified car?
If you correctly go through the steps of preparing a car for a turbo like a 35 or 37R you wont have any issues.
But installing a 35R on a stock block, no cams, no meth, no headstuds, no ignition upgrade, I think on a stock intercooler what are you thinking is going to happen.
I would install the following in yours and the original poster:
1. Cams
2. Coil Over Plug Ignition
3. Methanol Injection
4. AEM
5. Headstuds
6. MORE BOOST
This is going to equal a killer car when it's said and done.
But pure player is only trapping 114, I can see why 4 wheel slide is rapping him. lol
I think once he gets these issues taken care of and he gets this car tuned right, he will be posting a thread of how many kills he has....
Good LUck to both of you.
If you correctly go through the steps of preparing a car for a turbo like a 35 or 37R you wont have any issues.
But installing a 35R on a stock block, no cams, no meth, no headstuds, no ignition upgrade, I think on a stock intercooler what are you thinking is going to happen.
I would install the following in yours and the original poster:
1. Cams
2. Coil Over Plug Ignition
3. Methanol Injection
4. AEM
5. Headstuds
6. MORE BOOST
This is going to equal a killer car when it's said and done.
But pure player is only trapping 114, I can see why 4 wheel slide is rapping him. lol
I think once he gets these issues taken care of and he gets this car tuned right, he will be posting a thread of how many kills he has....
Good LUck to both of you.
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You know the problem Chris, and have asked me many times...
You skipped too many steps and thats why i rape you on stock turbo...
Once you get that meth on there and get someone familiar with evo's to tune it you'll be much happier and might have a fighting chance against me ;-p
You skipped too many steps and thats why i rape you on stock turbo...
Once you get that meth on there and get someone familiar with evo's to tune it you'll be much happier and might have a fighting chance against me ;-p
I keep seeing people say that cams will help spool a turbo???? I don't see how a cam helps spool... all a cam does is shift where the power is made. I would expect him to have more peak power, but if anything worse spool.
