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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 08:16 AM
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No harm done...can i still have a ride?
When my S2000 is back on its feet, and if you lived in my area, I'd be more than happy to give you a ride in it.
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 08:18 AM
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I am done with this silly debate. We are each entitled to our own opinions, even when mine will always be right. LOL! Just playing. Anyways, both cars excel in areas in which their manufacturers designed them for, and I am very happy to own both.
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 09:35 AM
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See now, thats much easier to swallow....

You wanna be right, thats cool. You just can't be when I am always right.


But its OK, its hard to compare to me.


In all seriousness.....I didn't read into your mod list for the S2K....

Hows does the drivetrain hold up? Stroker? Sleeving? Turbo?

I like the header setup.....what times do you pull in the 1/4?
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by feldguy
In all seriousness.....I didn't read into your mod list for the S2K....

Hows does the drivetrain hold up? Stroker? Sleeving? Turbo?

I like the header setup.....what times do you pull in the 1/4?
Here is the current mod list (power wise):

Garrett GT3567R ball bearing turbo; Full-Race turbo manifold; inlinePRO 600hp intercooler; Speed Force Racing charge pipes (3" cold side / 2.5" hot side); Full-Race down-pipe and dump-tube; Tial 44mm wastegate; inlinePRO billet blow-off valve; Full-Race oil filter relocation kit; custom steel-braided oil feed/return kit; Walbro 255 fuel pump; RC 1000cc injectors; OEM resistor box; B&M fuel pressure gauge (tapped into OEM fuel rail); AEM 3.5 BAR MAP sensor; custom single 3" exhaust with Tanabe Tuner Medalion (racing trim); prototype engine management system; Hondata intake manifold gasket; ACT pressure plate; Comptech lightened flywheel; Mugen compressor belt; Rick's lightweight pulleys/tensioners; heater and A/C system completely removed; Koyo radiator; FAL dual radiator fans; Samco Sport upper/lower radiator hoses; Mugen thermostat

The car currently weighs ~2500lbs. The engine itself is currently bone stock. I am sending the cylinder head to a shop called Laskey Racing for their Stage 3 head job:

http://www.laskeyracing.com/shop/portflow.htm

I am sending the TB to a shop called PortFlow to have them do a tapered bore on it and the IM to a guy who port-matches the IM inlet with the TB, removes wasted material (about 5 lbs worth!) and then polishes it. When I put this all back together, I will use a 3mm headgasket as a band-aid to lower the compression to 9:1. I am upgrading the rear end to a inlinePRO R200 rear diff conversion kit, which will support up to 1000whp.

When my S2000 was last tuned, it made 475rwhp @ 7400 RPMs with 12.93psi and 91 octane. The tuning stopped at 7400 because the boost wanted to keep increasing, and we didn't have time to troubleshoot the problem. If the boost would have stayed under 13psi, it should have made around 525rwhp @ 8500. This issue has been resolved and the car can now be rev'd to 8500 without boost creep issues. With the upgraded cylinder head I will be reving it to 9000. I will have two tunes done during the next tuning session--one for ~10psi and 91 octane (street tune) and one for ~19psi and C16 (track tune).

I am crossing my fingers that the engine will hold-up until I have the money to have the bottom end built, but pretty much expect it to give on the track tune since it will be stock with the exception of the thicker headgasket.
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 12:16 PM
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the track tune is a really good idea. it is a different enviroment for tune ,wich is important. the dyno tune is good for base, but if you are serius, you need to tune on the track.
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Robevo RS
the track tune is a really good idea. it is a different enviroment for tune ,wich is important. the dyno tune is good for base, but if you are serius, you need to tune on the track.
I don't do any tuning myself. If either of my cars becomes really competitive, I will look at having my tuner come to the track with me. Concerning the Evo, the tunes thus far have been via the EcuFlash program, but sometime next year we are going to get an AEM EMS.
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 03:45 PM
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no i didn't meant a self tune. I wouldn't tune my car ,maybe one of my enemy one.
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 07:01 PM
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s2k rearends are trash! haha!
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 07:12 PM
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s2k rearends are trash! haha!
No doubt...which is why I am upgrading mine.
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 07:18 PM
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mostly poking fun hahahaha
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Old Nov 18, 2007 | 06:51 PM
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All very cool....but I have to ask one simple question,

Why go so far as to upping the power to the motor and not do the eventual rebuild? Im sure you've got plans for it, but how is it holding up?

Im leary of such thick head gaskets. Do they work? yes....but when the boost increases to a certain degree, I begin to worry. But one way or another....I gotta PM you about something.


Originally Posted by sEvoIXnTurboS2k
Here is the current mod list (power wise):

Garrett GT3567R ball bearing turbo; Full-Race turbo manifold; inlinePRO 600hp intercooler; Speed Force Racing charge pipes (3" cold side / 2.5" hot side); Full-Race down-pipe and dump-tube; Tial 44mm wastegate; inlinePRO billet blow-off valve; Full-Race oil filter relocation kit; custom steel-braided oil feed/return kit; Walbro 255 fuel pump; RC 1000cc injectors; OEM resistor box; B&M fuel pressure gauge (tapped into OEM fuel rail); AEM 3.5 BAR MAP sensor; custom single 3" exhaust with Tanabe Tuner Medalion (racing trim); prototype engine management system; Hondata intake manifold gasket; ACT pressure plate; Comptech lightened flywheel; Mugen compressor belt; Rick's lightweight pulleys/tensioners; heater and A/C system completely removed; Koyo radiator; FAL dual radiator fans; Samco Sport upper/lower radiator hoses; Mugen thermostat

The car currently weighs ~2500lbs. The engine itself is currently bone stock. I am sending the cylinder head to a shop called Laskey Racing for their Stage 3 head job:

http://www.laskeyracing.com/shop/portflow.htm

I am sending the TB to a shop called PortFlow to have them do a tapered bore on it and the IM to a guy who port-matches the IM inlet with the TB, removes wasted material (about 5 lbs worth!) and then polishes it. When I put this all back together, I will use a 3mm headgasket as a band-aid to lower the compression to 9:1. I am upgrading the rear end to a inlinePRO R200 rear diff conversion kit, which will support up to 1000whp.

When my S2000 was last tuned, it made 475rwhp @ 7400 RPMs with 12.93psi and 91 octane. The tuning stopped at 7400 because the boost wanted to keep increasing, and we didn't have time to troubleshoot the problem. If the boost would have stayed under 13psi, it should have made around 525rwhp @ 8500. This issue has been resolved and the car can now be rev'd to 8500 without boost creep issues. With the upgraded cylinder head I will be reving it to 9000. I will have two tunes done during the next tuning session--one for ~10psi and 91 octane (street tune) and one for ~19psi and C16 (track tune).

I am crossing my fingers that the engine will hold-up until I have the money to have the bottom end built, but pretty much expect it to give on the track tune since it will be stock with the exception of the thicker headgasket.
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Old Nov 18, 2007 | 10:31 PM
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Because F20C/F22C are able to hold more power than most people think. They are good for about 500whp stock block as long as you drop the compression.
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by feldguy
All very cool....but I have to ask one simple question,

Why go so far as to upping the power to the motor and not do the eventual rebuild? Im sure you've got plans for it, but how is it holding up?

Im leary of such thick head gaskets. Do they work? yes....but when the boost increases to a certain degree, I begin to worry. But one way or another....I gotta PM you about something.
The stock F20/22 block is pretty stout as it has both forged pistons and rods. There are many S2000 owners running as much as 20psi on 93 octane with the inlinePRO 3mm headgasket. Those having issues with the thicker headgasket pretty muched screwed up the installation and over-torqued the head studs.

The inlinePRO R200 rear diff conversion kit is going to cost me about $2800. The Laskey Racing Stage 3 head job is another $1800. Having the stock block built is about $3750. I still need to buy another set of wheels and drag radials/slicks for drag racing, and have a few other small but expensive jobs to do on the car. So, because money is a limiting factor, and because I told the wife we'd continue to mod her Evo, I need to hold-off on building the bottom end until we get the Evo to a certain point.

I am hoping that, since my S2000 will only be opened up on the track, the stock bottom end will hold-up. I know that that is where it is mostly likely to break down, but I have my fingers crossed and will be prepared to have her towed home if need be.
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 07:52 AM
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yea its a great car if your chick or a middle aged man in a mid life crisis. good luck with it dude. i wouldnt touch a honda nowadays even if they paid me the way those things are getting stolen here in south florida HA.
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 08:22 AM
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Both cars are sexy....i could never give the evo up though
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