Evo 8 or srt-4 ?
since your on a budget get the srt4 but only after a 03 bc they have lsd's and that will help a little with traction. but if this is your last chance to own a dream car i would suck it up and pay up for the evo. my .02 good luck
Yes I still would, mainly because you can't get a Civic-R here and also because you definitely can't get a used Civic-R here, so I see your video and I raise you another video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=0
For 20k (assuming you REALLY can't find an Evo) I'd get one of 3 cars if I lived in Cali climate: WRX (or STi if you can find one), SRT4, S2000.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=0
For 20k (assuming you REALLY can't find an Evo) I'd get one of 3 cars if I lived in Cali climate: WRX (or STi if you can find one), SRT4, S2000.
Compare the rich guy to the enthusiast in his modified S2000. Opposites. The S2000 guy knew his car well and was driving to the max. Not that hard, relatively speaking. I mean, compare the limits of a modified S2000 and a stock Carrera GT. One driven by the guy who knows his car and the other by the guy who is getting to know his car probably for the first or second time.
All this begs the question of which car's limits is more accessible? The S2000, of course. Your argument isn't valid. Fact of the matter is, a stock Civic Type R beats a stock S2000 easily. The Civic has 20 hp less, too! Sad. The S2000 has seen its day.
Honda is overdue in re-working their American performance cars. Until they do, stay away if you want pure performance. Again, want fun in the sun? S2000 or latest gen' Boxster all the way. I'd opt for the Porsche.
Last edited by EVO X Owner-2-B; Jan 9, 2008 at 06:09 PM.
Location does matter when buying a car. A clean California titled car or other similar warm climate states can fetch a slight premium over an Evo coming from a cold weather state/environment.
Oh, please. You can't be serious. Do you really believe that the Carrera GT owner was driving that car anywhere near its limit? Of course not. Probably some rich guy getting a taste of what his hyper-car can do.
Compare the rich guy to the enthusiast in his modified S2000. Opposites. The S2000 guy knew his car well and was driving to the max. Not that hard, relatively speaking. I mean, compare the limits of a modified S2000 and a stock Carrera GT. One driven by the guy who knows his car and the other by the guy who is getting to know his car probably for the first or second time.
All this begs the question of which car's limits is more accessible? The S2000, of course. Your argument isn't valid. Fact of the matter is, a stock Civic Type R beats a stock S2000 easily. The Civic has 20 hp less, too! Sad. The S2000 has seen its day.
Honda is overdue in re-working their American performance cars. Until they do, stay away if you want pure performance. Again, want fun in the sun? S2000 or latest gen' Boxster all the way. I'd opt for the Porsche.
Compare the rich guy to the enthusiast in his modified S2000. Opposites. The S2000 guy knew his car well and was driving to the max. Not that hard, relatively speaking. I mean, compare the limits of a modified S2000 and a stock Carrera GT. One driven by the guy who knows his car and the other by the guy who is getting to know his car probably for the first or second time.
All this begs the question of which car's limits is more accessible? The S2000, of course. Your argument isn't valid. Fact of the matter is, a stock Civic Type R beats a stock S2000 easily. The Civic has 20 hp less, too! Sad. The S2000 has seen its day.
Honda is overdue in re-working their American performance cars. Until they do, stay away if you want pure performance. Again, want fun in the sun? S2000 or latest gen' Boxster all the way. I'd opt for the Porsche.
Umm...you've got to be kidding that a stock Civic Type R will beat a stock S2000 in any category except weight. The S2000 is one of the most well-balanced cars(near 50/50 weight distribution)on the road and will out accelerate, handle and likely out-brake a Civic Type R. The Civic Type R has it for exclusivity, but that's about it.
Sorry for hijacking this thread, just couldn't allow false propoganda to be posted w/out commenting.
You can get a stg3 or 50 trim SRT-4 for 15-17k with all supporting mods, or a stock one for 13-14k. They are cheap and very fast on the street, but they suck at the track and can't handle. But for 99% of people, it will suit their needs, as most people only go straight line anyways...
However, I got my Evo because it's what I wanted, and the fact that they are an awesome all around car was just a plus, major plus.
However, I got my Evo because it's what I wanted, and the fact that they are an awesome all around car was just a plus, major plus.
Umm...you've got to be kidding that a stock Civic Type R will beat a stock S2000 in any category except weight. The S2000 is one of the most well-balanced cars(near 50/50 weight distribution)on the road and will out accelerate, handle and likely out-brake a Civic Type R. The Civic Type R has it for exclusivity, but that's about it.
Sorry for hijacking this thread, just couldn't allow false propoganda to be posted w/out commenting.
Sorry for hijacking this thread, just couldn't allow false propoganda to be posted w/out commenting.
Apparently you didn't watch this video: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=123912
Or, maybe you're right, the Carrera GT driver might not be all that, but you can't really deduce much from just a two-minute video clip.
This link works: http://www.gtchannel.com/content.php?cid=10975 Sorry 'bout that.
Part 2: http://www.gtchannel.com/content.php?cid=10977
And part 3: http://www.gtchannel.com/content.php?cid=10974
Part 2: http://www.gtchannel.com/content.php?cid=10977
And part 3: http://www.gtchannel.com/content.php?cid=10974
Last edited by EVO X Owner-2-B; Jan 9, 2008 at 08:17 PM.
There could be tons of other explanations. Maybe the Carrera GT owner just recently bought the car and isn't accustomed to it yet, or maybe he's never been to that track. Or maybe the S2000 (which is obviously modded just by listening to it) has a truckload of serious work done to it while the driver is a well-seasoned driver who is very accustomed to both his own car and the track.
Or, maybe you're right, the Carrera GT driver might not be all that, but you can't really deduce much from just a two-minute video clip.
Or, maybe you're right, the Carrera GT driver might not be all that, but you can't really deduce much from just a two-minute video clip.
Yes, in turn I agree with you on the fact that that video involving the best production Porsche to date was terribly inadequate. That particular S2000 in that vid' is nowhere near as capable as that stock Carrera GT. Still can't believe that vid' was used to back his position.
But even if it were Walter Rohl or whatever his name is behind the wheel, if he had never been on that course before, it's not likely that he'll be able to push the car to 100% on his first try, so it would hypothetically be possible for a car and driver combo like in the S2000 to keep up and pass him as he spun out. Even the best drivers make mistakes.


