Evo 8 or srt-4 ?
"DEFINITION OF ACCELERATION"
One top SRT-4 Engine makes more horsepower
than the first 5 rows of stock cars on the moon.
Under full throttle, a SRT-4 engine consumes 1-1/2 gallons of Gasoline per minute; a fully loaded High School Bus consumes Diesel at the same
rate with 25% less energy being produced.
A Dodge Hemi V8 street engine cannot produce enough power to drive the
SRT-4's Turbocharger.
With 3,000 CFM of air being rammed in by the Turbo on the moon,
the fuel mixture is compressed into a near-solid form before ignition.
All 4 Cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lock at half throttle.
At the stoichiometric (stoichiometry: methodology and technology by
which quantities of reactants and products in chemical reactions are
determined) 1.7:1 air/fuel mixture of methane, the flame front
temperature measures 7,050 deg F. (approx - 14.7:1+ on a car)
Nitro methane burns yellow. SRT-4 Gas burns Gold. The spectacular gold flame seen above the
Hubble telescope , dissociated from atmospheric
water vapor by the searing exhaust gases.
Dual magnetos supply .2 amps to each spark plug. This is essentially the
output of an Energizer Battery in each cylinder.
Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass. After halfway,
the engine is dieseling from compression, plus the glow of exhaust
valves at 1,400 deg F. The engine can only be shut down by turning the key.
If spark momentarily fails early in the run, unburned gas builds up in
the affected cylinders and then explodes with sufficient force to blow
cylinder heads off the block in pieces or split the block in half.
In order to exceed 30 mph in 4.5 seconds, SRT-4's must accelerate an
average of over 4G's. In order to reach 60 mph (well before
half-track), the launch acceleration approaches 8G's.
Srt-4's reach over 30 miles per hour before you have completed
reading this sentence.
Top fuel engines turn approximately 540 revolutions from light to light! SRT-4's are dyno'd on the moon.
Including the burnout, the engine must only survive 900 revolutions
under load.
The redline is actually quite high at 9,500 rpm.
Assuming all the equipment is paid off, the crew worked for free, and
for once NOTHING BLOWS UP, each run costs an estimate $10.00 per
Hour.
The current top SRT-4 elapsed time record is 14.441 seconds for
the quarter mile (10/05/03, Joey Boots). The top speed record is
112.00 mph as measured over the last 66' of the run (09/28/03
Hymen Cabotta).
That folks is acceleration...
One top SRT-4 Engine makes more horsepower
than the first 5 rows of stock cars on the moon.
Under full throttle, a SRT-4 engine consumes 1-1/2 gallons of Gasoline per minute; a fully loaded High School Bus consumes Diesel at the same
rate with 25% less energy being produced.
A Dodge Hemi V8 street engine cannot produce enough power to drive the
SRT-4's Turbocharger.
With 3,000 CFM of air being rammed in by the Turbo on the moon,
the fuel mixture is compressed into a near-solid form before ignition.
All 4 Cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lock at half throttle.
At the stoichiometric (stoichiometry: methodology and technology by
which quantities of reactants and products in chemical reactions are
determined) 1.7:1 air/fuel mixture of methane, the flame front
temperature measures 7,050 deg F. (approx - 14.7:1+ on a car)
Nitro methane burns yellow. SRT-4 Gas burns Gold. The spectacular gold flame seen above the
Hubble telescope , dissociated from atmospheric
water vapor by the searing exhaust gases.
Dual magnetos supply .2 amps to each spark plug. This is essentially the
output of an Energizer Battery in each cylinder.
Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass. After halfway,
the engine is dieseling from compression, plus the glow of exhaust
valves at 1,400 deg F. The engine can only be shut down by turning the key.
If spark momentarily fails early in the run, unburned gas builds up in
the affected cylinders and then explodes with sufficient force to blow
cylinder heads off the block in pieces or split the block in half.
In order to exceed 30 mph in 4.5 seconds, SRT-4's must accelerate an
average of over 4G's. In order to reach 60 mph (well before
half-track), the launch acceleration approaches 8G's.
Srt-4's reach over 30 miles per hour before you have completed
reading this sentence.
Top fuel engines turn approximately 540 revolutions from light to light! SRT-4's are dyno'd on the moon.
Including the burnout, the engine must only survive 900 revolutions
under load.
The redline is actually quite high at 9,500 rpm.
Assuming all the equipment is paid off, the crew worked for free, and
for once NOTHING BLOWS UP, each run costs an estimate $10.00 per
Hour.
The current top SRT-4 elapsed time record is 14.441 seconds for
the quarter mile (10/05/03, Joey Boots). The top speed record is
112.00 mph as measured over the last 66' of the run (09/28/03
Hymen Cabotta).
That folks is acceleration...
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Is your background on the drag strip?
The Neon SRT-4's chassis is inferior to the Lancer Evo's. The Evo feels solid while the SRT-4 feels flimsy. The Evo' steering and handling are light years ahead of the Dodge. Wanna have a little oversteer fun? On a closed track, of course. Good luck getting the tail out in a Dodge. No powerslides to be had with FWD. Even on the street, with quick, full grip, non-sliding turns, I remember the SRT-4 understeering like a *****. I HATED its turn-in. No front end grip.
So many nods for the Dodge. I'm surprised. On an Evo forum, too.
The Neon SRT-4's chassis is inferior to the Lancer Evo's. The Evo feels solid while the SRT-4 feels flimsy. The Evo' steering and handling are light years ahead of the Dodge. Wanna have a little oversteer fun? On a closed track, of course. Good luck getting the tail out in a Dodge. No powerslides to be had with FWD. Even on the street, with quick, full grip, non-sliding turns, I remember the SRT-4 understeering like a *****. I HATED its turn-in. No front end grip.
So many nods for the Dodge. I'm surprised. On an Evo forum, too.
I don't care what kind of board it is, I just hate the fanboys on ANY forum, who think whatever it is they drive is the end-all answer to anyone's question. The Dodge is a great low-buck car for sombody who wants fun and dosn't want to break the bank. The Evolution is a great car for someone who enjoys motorsports, and who wants a responsive car and is willing to spend the money. Though to the average guy, both cars on the street are just as quick.
I am not coming from a "drag strip" point of view, just that of the average joe who wants a fun car to drive daily, throw some bolt ons at and have fun. I agree, the chasis of the Evolution is that of a refined sports car, where is the SRT-4 is a rental car with a high output engine stuffed in. But that is the difference in price. The average guy who has these cars will probably never take the car to a road course, most guys who have these things might have some fun on the street or the local dragstrip.
I don't care what kind of board it is, I just hate the fanboys on ANY forum, who think whatever it is they drive is the end-all answer to anyone's question. The Dodge is a great low-buck car for sombody who wants fun and dosn't want to break the bank. The Evolution is a great car for someone who enjoys motorsports, and who wants a responsive car and is willing to spend the money. Though to the average guy, both cars on the street are just as quick.
I don't care what kind of board it is, I just hate the fanboys on ANY forum, who think whatever it is they drive is the end-all answer to anyone's question. The Dodge is a great low-buck car for sombody who wants fun and dosn't want to break the bank. The Evolution is a great car for someone who enjoys motorsports, and who wants a responsive car and is willing to spend the money. Though to the average guy, both cars on the street are just as quick.
Ummm...OK...
I know nothing about the Dodge aprat from the fact that it's, well it's a Dodge.
I do know recent pricing on used Evo's in Socal. I just bought an Evo,and perused the used market here before I did. I came across a several '03 Evo's with under 60kmi for under $20k. A few were asking $18k. If you want an Evo in SoCal and have $20k to spend, you'll find one.
I know nothing about the Dodge aprat from the fact that it's, well it's a Dodge.
I do know recent pricing on used Evo's in Socal. I just bought an Evo,and perused the used market here before I did. I came across a several '03 Evo's with under 60kmi for under $20k. A few were asking $18k. If you want an Evo in SoCal and have $20k to spend, you'll find one.
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From: Actionville, FL
05 SRT (Factory Stage 1 and LSD model) with 14k miles 16,900, great condition and stock, private owner:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/se...archid=7151122
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/se...archid=7151122
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From: Southern California
If you end up looking into an SRT-4, be sure to go through srtforums.com and see if maybe that car's owner posts on there so you can see the car's history (mods, frequency of track visits, etc.)
Wrong. I disagree. Even from a roll, the Neon SRT-4 would lose miserably. I've owned both cars and the Evo is much stronger even from a roll. Granted, I have a IX RS. Believe it or not, still stock, too. I will give you this, though. When I owned the Dodge, I test drove a used '04 Evo. It probably wasn't the best example of Evo to compare with the SRT-4, but I was disappointed with the Evo's acceleration. Loved the chassis and steering feel. Not to mention the interior - center tach, Momo wheel and Recaros. The acceleration, though, felt about the same as my Dodge. Did a WOT run up to 80. The Evo had a loud BOV and was probably messed around with a little. Had around 18k miles, I think. It was at a Mitsu dealer, though.
The stock Dodge starts to drop off considerably above 80 mph. While the Evo's top is 100. Everything up to 80 in the Evo, in my stock Evo, still would out run a stock SRT-4. Not even close, man.
The stock Dodge starts to drop off considerably above 80 mph. While the Evo's top is 100. Everything up to 80 in the Evo, in my stock Evo, still would out run a stock SRT-4. Not even close, man.
Stock 8 vs Stock Srt-4 from a roll(at least 40 lol).... srt will win. They make the same WHP stock but the srt-4 is lighter. They don't drop off at 80, their 4th pulls to about 130-135, much longer than our 4ths. Now with a IX it could be different, but this is personal experience with a stock 8 and stock srt-4...
stock SRT-4 or with light bolt-ons, they're quick, no one can deny that
Last edited by 8UpUrV8; Jan 10, 2008 at 10:51 AM. Reason: misconception
^With the exception of the 500-plus hp monsters, there's a point when the car loses it's acceleration pace. For a stock Neon SRT-4, it's around 80.
No need to roll eyes when you just agreed with me about pre-'05 Evo GSR straight-line acceleration.
No need to roll eyes when you just agreed with me about pre-'05 Evo GSR straight-line acceleration.
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It's been three or four years since I had last driven an SRT-4 hard, but I recall the SRT-4 still having some decent pep when breaking 100, and I let off at 120.
I've personally seen stock 8 vs stock srt-4 from 40-130 on a closed course. srt-4 walked him
Especially when the evo hits 5th gear(5 speed), the srt-4 keeps truckin in 4th.
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But that applies to most cars that aren't legit sports cars though. Plus naturally any car's acceleration past 80 mph will be slower than below 80 mph, that's a given.