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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 09:25 AM
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Keith, I am not going to post anything from NABR here, after thinking about it a lot it will only cause me more hate from the NABR crew and that is part of what I am trying to fix/repair.

You know the things you have said, typed and promoted there. You know how hard everyone there has wanted the NABR (Not A Buschur Racing) Shootout to happen. If you want people to really see how many of you have acted from there then by all means, cut and paste the truth of it all and post it here. You will obviously have to edit a lot of it as there is no foul language allowed here.

You guys speak of my banning so many people over the years. I have banned two, one I forgot about and he turned out to be a crook who stole from a lot of people. The other was Marco and he is not banned and I invited him back to the event.

That is all. I am not going to contaminate this thread further.

I hope next year you guys (organizers of the NJ event) do the right thing and put it on a different weekend from the 18th Annual DSM/EVO Shootout. I am telling you know, our event will for the 6-7th year in the row be on that same weekend next year and every year after.
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
I would have gladly gone to the events with my RS and raced but knew I'd be thrown out as soon as it made the first pass as it has no cage in it. The one event I do run is the Winged Warrior Event and I do actually drive at that event as of last year. It's a blast and by running our EVOX I could compete without breaking the rules at the track. The year before last we ran the RS and we were thrown out after setting the quickest and fastest times of the day, still won but were tossed out. Good times right there, haha.
er and with my plans to run the mile in my RS it may have a cage in it finally.

Have a great day.
You don't go out of state because anywhere else doesn't cater to you. Quality tracks uphold the rules, not bend them. Did you throw a tantrum at this event also? "Protestor's suck" hahahaha

Safety equipment is heavy.
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by drewgray
You don't go out of state because anywhere else doesn't cater to you. Quality tracks uphold the rules, not bend them. Did you throw a tantrum at this event also? "Protestor's suck" hahahaha

Safety equipment is heavy.
No he didn't throw a tantrum at the WW event! He is always fun to have there, and he OWNS the track!!! He did abide by the rules there too.
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 09:33 AM
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I guess Summit Racing Motorsports Park (Norwalk) isnt a quality track.

I suppose being voted best track in the country is something that doesnt count for anything.

Originally Posted by smokedmustang
No he didn't throw a tantrum at the WW event! He is always fun to have there, and he OWNS the track!!! He did abide by the rules there too.
Winged Warrior is always a good event. One of my favorites to attend!

See you in a couple months Doc!
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Jrod@Buschur
I guess Summit Racing Motorsports Park (Norwalk) isnt a quality track.

I suppose being voted best track in the country is something that doesnt count for anything.



Winged Warrior is always a good event. One of my favorites to attend!

See you in a couple months Doc!
You got it!! Can't wait!
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 09:44 AM
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When a track allows multiple 9 second passes from a car that couldn't pass tech for 11.49, yes that is an absolute unsafe place to race.
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 10:07 AM
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When a track allows multiple 9 second passes from a car that couldn't pass tech for 11.49, yes that is an absolute unsafe place to race.
Is this about the WW event or in general? NHRA rules at ORP were if the car ran too fast on a pass without the proper saftey equipment, the driver is warned to slow it down or risk getting kicked off the track. He did his pass, and let that time stand for "TEAM IMPORT" in our event. I wont discuss our event in this thread, but he was within the rules with our deal, and didn't ruffle any feathers either. He is an HONEST person, and does 2nd to none work with his shop, and thats all I care about. When I get another Evo, it will be done from TOP TO BOTTOM from the fine folks at Buschur.

I don't like the fact that having another event the same day at the shootout! In my old-school books, that is a spit in the face, kick in the *****, and just Not a cool thing to do period. That is my stance on this, and it's unfortunate "we" must choose, but I am guessing more will see it the way I do, and give a courtesty hat-tip to the Buschur Camp on this one. Its the right thing to do. The proof is in the pudding on the other drama crap anyway. BUSCHUR FTW.
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by drewgray
When a track allows multiple 9 second passes from a car that couldn't pass tech for 11.49, yes that is an absolute unsafe place to race.
Anytime you drive a car at these power levels it is not safe. Regardless of what they let run and don't let run it is the driver who in the end makes that choice.

Are you the safety police here? Next time you guy over the speed limit just remember your not being 'safe'.
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 10:14 AM
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I'm not. Its just an analogy. I am sure there will be other big name cars that will have to choose one event over the other. That's my point. Think of it as a team having to choose one championship over the other.
Everybody has to choose something to specialize at/ aim for.... I understand the analogy, just it's a bad one

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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by drewgray
When a track allows multiple 9 second passes from a car that couldn't pass tech for 11.49, yes that is an absolute unsafe place to race.
That is one of the major reason why everybody likes the Buschur shootout. You get to run your car wihtout needing all the safety equipment.

It allows people without it to run on the track to see how fast there car is, and it gives people who have fast cars and no safety equipment an impressive timeslip because they arent draggin 300lbs of stuff down the track!

Scorke

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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by drewgray
When a track allows multiple 9 second passes from a car that couldn't pass tech for 11.49, yes that is an absolute unsafe place to race.
so its ok to go out on the street and run your car up to 150mph or street race?? tell me you and 99% of everyone else on here has never done that. your lieing out your *** if you say you have not.

its stupid to do yes i agree. BUT the track is not forcing you to do it. your friends dont make you do it either. its YOU and YOUR choice to race with or without a cage.

IMO good let them race down the track with no safety equipment. its there choice. if they crash and die its there fault. at least it was not on the street where others can die because of someone elses stupidity

the track just gives you a safer place to act stupid. NO ONE is making you do it. its YOUR choice..
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 10:22 AM
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by StreetThisEvo
Anytime you drive a car at these power levels it is not safe. Regardless of what they let run and don't let run it is the driver who in the end makes that choice.

Are you the safety police here? Next time you guy over the speed limit just remember your not being 'safe'.
I just find it a bit of irony when a few years back Dave had a real scare with his RWD Pro-Outlaw, so much he decided to get rid of it before he really did get hurt while at the same time lets his brother/friends/customers drive cars in his event(s) nearly as quick without as much as a safety cage.

Out of curiosity, how is it that an NHRA track that that carries insurance for such events does not enforce the most basic of rules? My local track is nowhere near Norwalk-size, yet enforces the cage rule without exception.
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 11:11 AM
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[QUOTE=dsm90awd;6768038] while at the same time lets his brother/friends/customers drive cars in his event(s) nearly as quick without as much as a safety cage.QUOTE]

I'm sure his brother/friends/customer are big boys and can make that choice on their own.
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 11:11 AM
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Out of curiosity, how is it that an NHRA track that that carries insurance for such events does not enforce the most basic of rules? My local track is nowhere near Norwalk-size, yet enforces the cage rule without exception.
I could be mistaken,but I think The Shootout can be considered a private track rental. So,the rule are not enforced... That and Mr. Buschur pulls a lot of weight in Ohio since he has taken the bad bish to a lot of the tracks there.



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