The DSM/EVO Shootout, the community and Buschur Racing
2010....
1/2010 - Bean lets everyone know that the Turbo Trix Event is moved back to its normal slot in April. All the the 2009 racers agree to come peform.
2/2010- David desides that he is bringing the black car and the bad bish out to play.
3/2010 - Marco drools at the possible grudge match.
4/2010 (Mitsuday) - 12 hours of great racing. Some cars are broken. Some egos are broken. Most importantly. The entire EVO/DSM community came together and got the show of all shows. We got to see all of these great cars peform. win or lose. To many damn 8 sec cars to count.
Fast forward a few months...
8/2010 ( Dsm Shoot out) ..... Dsm/Evo community comes together again for the much anticipated rematches and one hellava party weekend. (yup those damn crazy Canadians were at it again)
12/2010 - Turbotrix is happy, Buschur racing is happy, Magnus motorsports is happy. Most importantly, the same people that keep all of the big name shops in business aka the community is happy.
1/2010 - Bean lets everyone know that the Turbo Trix Event is moved back to its normal slot in April. All the the 2009 racers agree to come peform.
2/2010- David desides that he is bringing the black car and the bad bish out to play.
3/2010 - Marco drools at the possible grudge match.
4/2010 (Mitsuday) - 12 hours of great racing. Some cars are broken. Some egos are broken. Most importantly. The entire EVO/DSM community came together and got the show of all shows. We got to see all of these great cars peform. win or lose. To many damn 8 sec cars to count.
Fast forward a few months...
8/2010 ( Dsm Shoot out) ..... Dsm/Evo community comes together again for the much anticipated rematches and one hellava party weekend. (yup those damn crazy Canadians were at it again)
12/2010 - Turbotrix is happy, Buschur racing is happy, Magnus motorsports is happy. Most importantly, the same people that keep all of the big name shops in business aka the community is happy.
2010....
1/2010 - Bean lets everyone know that the Turbo Trix Event is moved back to its normal slot in April. All the the 2009 racers agree to come peform.
2/2010- David desides that he is bringing the black car and the bad bish out to play.
3/2010 - Marco drools at the possible grudge match.
4/2010 (Mitsuday) - 12 hours of great racing. Some cars are broken. Some egos are broken. Most importantly. The entire EVO/DSM community came together and got the show of all shows. We got to see all of these great cars peform. win or lose. To many damn 8 sec cars to count.
Fast forward a few months...
8/2010 ( Dsm Shoot out) ..... Dsm/Evo community comes together again for the much anticipated rematches and one hellava party weekend. (yup those damn crazy Canadians were at it again)
12/2010 - Turbotrix is happy, Buschur racing is happy, Magnus motorsports is happy. Most importantly, the same people that keep all of the big name shops in business aka the community is happy.
1/2010 - Bean lets everyone know that the Turbo Trix Event is moved back to its normal slot in April. All the the 2009 racers agree to come peform.
2/2010- David desides that he is bringing the black car and the bad bish out to play.
3/2010 - Marco drools at the possible grudge match.
4/2010 (Mitsuday) - 12 hours of great racing. Some cars are broken. Some egos are broken. Most importantly. The entire EVO/DSM community came together and got the show of all shows. We got to see all of these great cars peform. win or lose. To many damn 8 sec cars to count.
Fast forward a few months...
8/2010 ( Dsm Shoot out) ..... Dsm/Evo community comes together again for the much anticipated rematches and one hellava party weekend. (yup those damn crazy Canadians were at it again)
12/2010 - Turbotrix is happy, Buschur racing is happy, Magnus motorsports is happy. Most importantly, the same people that keep all of the big name shops in business aka the community is happy.
Sounds like a great idea
At least one person has some inteligence
Dave i live like 25 minutes away from Englishtown, and i have been to the Mitsubishi event just about every year and every year it seems to disappoint me. Thats why this year me and a bunch of my friends are going to drive 6+ hours out to Ohio to check out the REAL DSM Shootout!!!!!
cant wait to see everyone there
cant wait to see everyone there
Dave i live like 25 minutes away from Englishtown, and i have been to the Mitsubishi event just about every year and every year it seems to disappoint me. Thats why this year me and a bunch of my friends are going to drive 6+ hours out to Ohio to check out the REAL DSM Shootout!!!!!
cant wait to see everyone there
cant wait to see everyone there
Mike
A lot of people are crying that they can not make it to 2 different events now.
My point is how many people went to the 07 SO in August and actually made it to the make up day in October?
I know a lot of die hard SO guys, and I admit it is a good time, none of those guys I know who go every year did not make the make up.
There is a lot of talk around different forums about going to 2 events, but lets be real, most peolpe will NOT make it to 2 events like this in a year even if they had 5 months apart, which could not happen.
We would not want an event early in the season, a lot of guys are getting things worked out in the car from winter upgrades. A logical time would probably be in June or July for the 1st event (warm weather and time off from school for the college guys and people who bring there families) But then the SO is in August, which is only 6-8 weeks later.
That is not much different from the 07 SO. A lot of people said they would go, but how many actually followed through with it?
I am not trying to bash here, I genuinly want to know and the search, well I gave up on it awhile ago.
My point is how many people went to the 07 SO in August and actually made it to the make up day in October?
I know a lot of die hard SO guys, and I admit it is a good time, none of those guys I know who go every year did not make the make up.
There is a lot of talk around different forums about going to 2 events, but lets be real, most peolpe will NOT make it to 2 events like this in a year even if they had 5 months apart, which could not happen.
We would not want an event early in the season, a lot of guys are getting things worked out in the car from winter upgrades. A logical time would probably be in June or July for the 1st event (warm weather and time off from school for the college guys and people who bring there families) But then the SO is in August, which is only 6-8 weeks later.
That is not much different from the 07 SO. A lot of people said they would go, but how many actually followed through with it?
I am not trying to bash here, I genuinly want to know and the search, well I gave up on it awhile ago.
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The way it looks from the outside from someone unbiased with a stock Evo is that the E-Town organizers, sponsors and big shop attendants are selfish and don't care about the community being able to attend both races, just because of their dislike of Buschur.
And I agree with Mike, it's cowardly to not admit the truth and not state publicly why IT'S ON THE SAME DAY!!!!!
And I agree with Mike, it's cowardly to not admit the truth and not state publicly why IT'S ON THE SAME DAY!!!!!
Dave i live like 25 minutes away from Englishtown, and i have been to the Mitsubishi event just about every year and every year it seems to disappoint me. Thats why this year me and a bunch of my friends are going to drive 6+ hours out to Ohio to check out the REAL DSM Shootout!!!!!
cant wait to see everyone there
cant wait to see everyone there
While I have always attended the NJ event and it has been fun - it has never been in the same leauge as the Ohio race - attendance wise or experiencxe wise
Honestly - the Ohio DSM Shootout is the best race I have ever been to - period
A lot of people are crying that they can not make it to 2 different events now.
My point is how many people went to the 07 SO in August and actually made it to the make up day in October?
I know a lot of die hard SO guys, and I admit it is a good time, none of those guys I know who go every year did not make the make up.
There is a lot of talk around different forums about going to 2 events, but lets be real, most peolpe will NOT make it to 2 events like this in a year even if they had 5 months apart, which could not happen.
We would not want an event early in the season, a lot of guys are getting things worked out in the car from winter upgrades. A logical time would probably be in June or July for the 1st event (warm weather and time off from school for the college guys and people who bring there families) But then the SO is in August, which is only 6-8 weeks later.
That is not much different from the 07 SO. A lot of people said they would go, but how many actually followed through with it?
I am not trying to bash here, I genuinly want to know and the search, well I gave up on it awhile ago.
My point is how many people went to the 07 SO in August and actually made it to the make up day in October?
I know a lot of die hard SO guys, and I admit it is a good time, none of those guys I know who go every year did not make the make up.
There is a lot of talk around different forums about going to 2 events, but lets be real, most peolpe will NOT make it to 2 events like this in a year even if they had 5 months apart, which could not happen.
We would not want an event early in the season, a lot of guys are getting things worked out in the car from winter upgrades. A logical time would probably be in June or July for the 1st event (warm weather and time off from school for the college guys and people who bring there families) But then the SO is in August, which is only 6-8 weeks later.
That is not much different from the 07 SO. A lot of people said they would go, but how many actually followed through with it?
I am not trying to bash here, I genuinly want to know and the search, well I gave up on it awhile ago.
Your theory is flawed
A lot of people - myself included made it to the 2007 October re-scheduled DSM race
Here is a video I took from '07
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avu8s...e=channel_page
I think you ar so consumed by hate that you just can't see the truth anymore
Having a second race on the same exact day benefits NO ONE and harms everyone expect the few people who are out to ruin the Ohio race becuase they can not accept the success of the BR Race
My brother was racing my dad's brand new 1987 Turbo Buick in about 1988. Running high 13's if I remember correctly. It was a bracket race, my father and I were on the starting line watching. He was running a motorcycle. The guy on the bike was faster. He got to the end of the track and slammed on his brakes to keep from braking out. He lost control and his BODY slid into my brother lane where my brother flattened his *** out and ran him over. Went under the front of the car and out under the left rear tire. They life flighted him out of there. He ended up with a dislocated hip.
Note that I agree about NHRA rules being outdated and I'd never, ever run a cage in a street driven car. Therefore I build my cars to run 11.5-11.9 so that I can enjoy it at the track without getting booted, instead of building it to run 9s and hoping for a track that ignores the rules.
There seems to be some common ground that the import drag scene is dying off, and that two events on the same day can weaken it further. So why don't some of you shops who care so much about our community step up and put together a SERIES of events and really show that you care about the community and not just furthering your own business's bottom line.
WHOA WHOA WHOA. Stop everything for a second. Exactly what track would allow a bike to run a car??????? I've been into the drag racing scene since I could walk, and I've NEVER seen a bike race a car at a track in my life. Assuming this story isn't BS, it only illustrates what can happen when a track ignores safety rules.
Note that I agree about NHRA rules being outdated and I'd never, ever run a cage in a street driven car. Therefore I build my cars to run 11.5-11.9 so that I can enjoy it at the track without getting booted, instead of building it to run 9s and hoping for a track that ignores the rules.
There seems to be some common ground that the import drag scene is dying off, and that two events on the same day can weaken it further. So why don't some of you shops who care so much about our community step up and put together a SERIES of events and really show that you care about the community and not just furthering your own business's bottom line.
Note that I agree about NHRA rules being outdated and I'd never, ever run a cage in a street driven car. Therefore I build my cars to run 11.5-11.9 so that I can enjoy it at the track without getting booted, instead of building it to run 9s and hoping for a track that ignores the rules.
There seems to be some common ground that the import drag scene is dying off, and that two events on the same day can weaken it further. So why don't some of you shops who care so much about our community step up and put together a SERIES of events and really show that you care about the community and not just furthering your own business's bottom line.
Last edited by SRT-TO-EVO; Mar 4, 2009 at 05:09 PM.
WHOA WHOA WHOA. Stop everything for a second. Exactly what track would allow a bike to run a car??????? I've been into the drag racing scene since I could walk, and I've NEVER seen a bike race a car at a track in my life. Assuming this story isn't BS, it only illustrates what can happen when a track ignores safety rules.
Note that I agree about NHRA rules being outdated and I'd never, ever run a cage in a street driven car. Therefore I build my cars to run 11.5-11.9 so that I can enjoy it at the track without getting booted, instead of building it to run 9s and hoping for a track that ignores the rules.
There seems to be some common ground that the import drag scene is dying off, and that two events on the same day can weaken it further. So why don't some of you shops who care so much about our community step up and put together a SERIES of events and really show that you care about the community and not just furthering your own business's bottom line.
Note that I agree about NHRA rules being outdated and I'd never, ever run a cage in a street driven car. Therefore I build my cars to run 11.5-11.9 so that I can enjoy it at the track without getting booted, instead of building it to run 9s and hoping for a track that ignores the rules.
There seems to be some common ground that the import drag scene is dying off, and that two events on the same day can weaken it further. So why don't some of you shops who care so much about our community step up and put together a SERIES of events and really show that you care about the community and not just furthering your own business's bottom line.
Exactly... LETS GET THIS DONE
only line in this entire thread worth a damn. the rest is just childish BS. the shops are the ones causing all the crap, splitting the community over their on petty arguments. its like a bunch of 13 yr old girls. grow up and set up a series of events to settle your difference on the tack.
remy, I like your idea, sounds pretty good to me
steve, you haven't been to many tracks I guess. Every track I have ever been to I've run a motorcycle if there were bikes there. Of course the story isn't BS, give yourself a rest already.
I do two races here in Ohio a year. Doing a series isn't a good idea. The reason is it takes away from the turn outs. I know this from being involved in the Buick community. A bunch of guys wanted to start their series events for there heads-up classes. NON of those events have very good turn outs. You want a bad *** Buick race you go to Bowling Green and you get it. The rest aren't nearly as big. Everyone wants a piece of the pie but it takes away from the main one and you end up with a bunch of mediocre events. Norwalk's event is the next best event in the Buick world but still not even close.
Look at the IFO series, turn outs are not all that good, good event but not huge turn outs.
Look at NHRA and NOPI's great ideas. Between the two of them they ruined and killed the entire Import Racing industry.
The shootout has done very well because it has catered to what the people want, it is the only event of it's kind that has continued to grow, it has hotels, restaurants and the track all in one tight central location. This makes getting around easy and staying in the action very easy too. It bring everyone together because you always see a DSM or EVO no matter where you go. Trying to explain it is pointless, you have to be there.
It's the same feeling I get when I am in Bowling Green for the Buick races. Buicks everywhere, lots of hotels/restaurants and no matter where you go you run into another Buick guy.
steve, you haven't been to many tracks I guess. Every track I have ever been to I've run a motorcycle if there were bikes there. Of course the story isn't BS, give yourself a rest already.
I do two races here in Ohio a year. Doing a series isn't a good idea. The reason is it takes away from the turn outs. I know this from being involved in the Buick community. A bunch of guys wanted to start their series events for there heads-up classes. NON of those events have very good turn outs. You want a bad *** Buick race you go to Bowling Green and you get it. The rest aren't nearly as big. Everyone wants a piece of the pie but it takes away from the main one and you end up with a bunch of mediocre events. Norwalk's event is the next best event in the Buick world but still not even close.
Look at the IFO series, turn outs are not all that good, good event but not huge turn outs.
Look at NHRA and NOPI's great ideas. Between the two of them they ruined and killed the entire Import Racing industry.
The shootout has done very well because it has catered to what the people want, it is the only event of it's kind that has continued to grow, it has hotels, restaurants and the track all in one tight central location. This makes getting around easy and staying in the action very easy too. It bring everyone together because you always see a DSM or EVO no matter where you go. Trying to explain it is pointless, you have to be there.
It's the same feeling I get when I am in Bowling Green for the Buick races. Buicks everywhere, lots of hotels/restaurants and no matter where you go you run into another Buick guy.
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What a foolish move by TurboTrix, JNZ and whomever else is involved with scheduling on the same weekend as the Shootout.
E-town is way too far of a haul for some of us who are west of Ohio. I am going to try and make it to the shootout this year with or without my high altitude 10sec Evo VIII.
E-town is way too far of a haul for some of us who are west of Ohio. I am going to try and make it to the shootout this year with or without my high altitude 10sec Evo VIII.