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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by evo8MR
most have probably already spent 37k on their evo, if it is modded up. If anything you would get more respect with a MR from non-ricers because it is a better model evo, as oppose to a regular evo with mods. Ricers im sure love evo's, but say a m3 is next to you, im sure that guy is thinking damn that car can kick my ***, not man thats a cheap rice car. I think the evo in general demands more respect than your avg rice car no matter what car the other guys got. If that guy ever pick up a magazine and read something on the evo or the M.R. edition=Mitsubishi Racing edition, he knows its function: PERFOMANCE, not leather, navi, heated seats, and an overpriced manufacturer..............................2cents
Actually, I disagree that most have spent 37k if modded. Assuming you have gotten your EVO for 29k OTD, you put 4k which is a lot of modding $$ and already have a kick *** EVO. We all know that 4k will get you a lot on an EVO.

Regarding the M3 comment, I think if I was the M3 owner, I will still think...."what a ricer"..and even if he/she beats me, it is still a piece of trash. Don't get me wrong, I have an EVO and I love my EVO.
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by erikgj
They remove HIDs and water spray.
IC misters they did remove but HIDs are still available as an option tho
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by mr96gsx408
actually...
if a guy has a m3, or mercedes, or any car that costs wayyy more than a evo, the guy is probably thinking, 'haha, he paid a crapload for a rougher ride, no navi, no leather seats, and couldn't even break 12's in under 91 decibals. I could of bought it, but it'd be a waste of money.' Most of those guys probably grew out of the stripped out hondas running 12 sec 1/4's that's loud and give headaches. Rather they'd buy a 13 sec luxury car out of the box.
Think about it, a E55amg automatic next to a evo. Sorry man, E55 amg wins hands down in pimp factor, and overall class.

Agree. I too think most BMW and Mercedes owners have an way different view on EVO owners do. For some reason I almost feel the same way now. I must be getting old.
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 01:52 PM
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buying a 30k car and still being called a ricer, that sucks.....i always thought ricers were neons and civics with altezza's, body kits, pep boys exhaust, hood lights and stickers all over it.
man i guess 30k is not what it used to be........
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by evo8MR
buying a 30k car and still being called a ricer, that sucks.....i always thought ricers were neons and civics with altezza's, body kits, pep boys exhaust, hood lights and stickers all over it.
man i guess 30k is not what it used to be........
I agree, I remember telling this one kid with a jetta "Im getting rid of my GTI and im gonna get an EVO" hes like "ohh, thats a cute ricer" im like "yur an idiot, this isnt some prelude, celica or civic, its actually a world recognized rally champion car"

and thats the best way to view this car " World Recognized Rally Championship car"
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by evo8MR
Thats your opinion, im not really into bmw and mercedes, I want a performance car and if you compare the m3 to the evo MR edition, the m3 will lose in every category except ergonomics, which is not important to me. You spend 50g's on an M3 and it will lose to a 35k mitsubishi, and the M-series is bmw's racing edition, which is weak on the track. E55amg automatic is a nice car,not my style, but its automatic and has no performance upgrades, you buy an evo and thats just the platform, so much potential to make it fast, just a few bolt ons and tuning and its going to be fast. Im young and going to enjoy my youth, if i had a lot of money the e55 amg grandfathermatic would not even be on my list of cars to have.
again it goes down to the question, 'would you rather buy a dodge neon srt4?'
most would say no, because it has tons of potential for going fast in the straights, but it has no handles and the all around car isn't good. Same with mercedes / bmw vs. the evo. It has speed, but it doesn't have luxury.

BTW, you guys haven't seen the 400hp modified cobra vs. the stock e55amg automatic have you ?

I'm sorry, but most ricers ON HERE don't even know a superior car when they see it in front of their face. I'd turn down any evo for a SL55 AMG/ e55 amg.

http://supraforums.com/forum/showthr...hreadid=140754 <--read and learn boys.

here's a bone stock dyno sheet of the e55 amg.
http://www.evosport.com/dynos/evo_211e55.jpg
I'm sure a level 1 stage 5x34342 type R kit tuned from some shop can get you this power. But remember to wave at the ugly 400+hp mercedes flying by you while blowing his cold a/c riding on some nice HRE's...

(Sorry, i have a bit of things i want to blow off my shoulders, the tuning world changed a lot since the 90's diy to 'how much did the shop charge to install xxx' )


BTW, the mclaren mercedes SLR was one of the fastest cars tested on top gear, and it's automatic from the factory.

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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mr96gsx408
BTW, the mclaren mercedes SLR was one of the fastest cars tested on top gear, and it's automatic from the factory.
Actaully the Porsche carrara GT is
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JaguarS4R
IC misters they did remove but HIDs are still available as an option tho
Yes an option but not a cheap one.
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by erikgj
Yes an option but not a cheap one.
How much?
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JaguarS4R
Actaully the Porsche carrara GT is
"one of the fastest"
http://www.tremek.com/forum/showthre...=6756#post6756

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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 07:46 PM
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Trust me...money is not the issue here. I am not going to brag about how much I make but to me......I will not pay $37 for a . So again, if I haven't bought the EVO, I still wouldn't buy the MR. I just think that your comment about "who wouldn't" is not true. Because clearly there are people that have not gotten an EVO and they will decide to get the GSR instead of the MR not because of the price...but because of other things such as they want sunroof or leather or whatever else. So to answer your comment of "who wouldn't", those that haven't gotten the EVO but still chooses the GSR over the MR wouldn't. Again that is just my opinion and no one elses. I apologize if I seem to come off as a ahole, but I am just trying to get my point across.

lol - no problem , i understand your point. but if other people on here had the money like you do , then they would get the mr. i guess i will retract my statement "who wouldn;t get an mr" cause i guess your the exception. what if the mr was selling for 25k would you still not get it becuase its 25 k or do you want a sunroof instead??
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by evo8MR
buying a 30k car and still being called a ricer, that sucks.....i always thought ricers were neons and civics with altezza's, body kits, pep boys exhaust, hood lights and stickers all over it.
man i guess 30k is not what it used to be........
probably called a ricer from a guy with a 50k car and talking $hit. but your right about the neons / hondas/ civics. rice is something added to the car that really doesnt belong on it.

check this website out for "rice" cars. you will not see an evo on it...
http://www.laughatrice.com/
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by cmf
I've driven the 2004 STi twice and a 2003 Evo twice now and I'm still having a hard time deciding between the two (I'd get the 2005 of whichever I decide, but driving a 2005 of either seems to be next to impossible). The STi has all these creature comforts and a great company behind it and it's reliable as all hell, but the Evo...well, it's just more fun to drive. The angel on one shoulder says "get the STi, it's the smarter choice" and the devil on the other shoulder says "dude, the Evo rocks" -- oh, what a decision!
lol - just get the evo and try to be a better 'off the road'


have fun , you only live once!
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 08:21 PM
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How much?
Last I heard it was only available with the leather sun and sound package. The price would be pretty close to the price of the MR. The current 04 LSS is $2550. So a good guess is HID+lss=? HIDs are pretty pricey.

HIDs are not to important to me but if you want them without the leather get an MR.
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 09:42 PM
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[QUOTE=BTW, the mclaren mercedes SLR was one of the fastest cars tested on top gear, and it's automatic from the factory.[/QUOTE]
3 cars that are better than the SLR:
-enzo
-carrera gt
-ford gt
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