Actually, the "base" Evo does not have ACD (at least not here in the US). The MR is really intended here to be Mitsu's answers to the complaints we voiced in regards to comparisons with the STi. Thus the addition of the six speed, better ride, and nicer interior options.

 

Base EVO in the US will have ACD for 05. The only thing the MR has is the 6speed thats the biggest thing(which isnt that big at all) does not have any nicer interior options except for a different shift knob, E-brake handle, all in all nothing special. Same cars

 

everyone be haten on the MR edition, first off its not just the six speed tranny thats different from the base evo, read about it before you start having your morning glass of hatorade.

 

Sure, the EVO is a Lancer just as the WRX is actually an Imprezza. It's really a moniker designation. Spec refers to a different package just like Mustang "LX" vs. Mustang "GT." The STi is no different. I know the purists out there will want to refer to these models in their "Japanese" forms, but since we only get the "American" versions we should refer to them as such.

It seems strange to me that so many people always point out how much "extra" money the MR costs over the standard Evo. I don't think it is ever a matter of "need" but rather a matter of want. If you purchased a standard Evo it would cost you a Lot to add the MR options than to just purchase the MR. Look at what you get for the money. What other sports car out there can you get for this kind of money that gives you this much besides the STi? Thus the natural comparison of Evo MR vs. STi...

 

What is it that yu get sooo much?? lighter wheels, different suspension, heavier tansmission??? GSR is just as good and offers more b/c yu can actually get leather, sunroof and upgraded sterero unlike the MR. The cars are a personal preference. GSR is my vote with the Sun, leather, sound pkg

 

Keep in mind that there has been claims of only 1000 MR units to be produced. There is a heck of a lot of STI's out there!!
In terms of uniqueness - the "MR" is the way to go.

 

So, by comparing the MR and STi, does that mean the GSR no longer compares to the 05 STi? reason i ask is, im in the market. Im def not getting the MR, so my choice is between the GSR and the STi. right now i have a 520rwhp 300zx, so i like to go fast.....this will be a daily driven car with occasional passengers(wife and baby). now, from what i understand, if you aren't gonna do any heavy modifying....the STi is the way to go. but i want the interior options of the STi(cruise, 6spd) but i want it to be very much upgradeable(without rebuilding the motor). i know this might not be the right place for my questions, but the SUPER MASS MERGE thread is just rediculously ****ty to search for answers in. anyone have experience modding the STi....or daily driving the EVO?

 

It has the Bilsteins (thus, the better ride AND better performance), the lighter weight BBS wheels, the gauge pack, the vortex generators, and the "exclusive" grey colored interior ( a selling point for some). Can anyone point me to a source to verify if the US standard Evo will actually be getting ACD?

 

Motor Trend just compaired the two cars in the October issue. It's amazing how close the cars really are. Same 0-60 of 4.7, same 1/4 mile of 13.3(MR has slightly higher trap speed) they stop within 3 ft of each other in two brake tests 100-0 and 60-0, interestingly the MR made 6 more HP on the dyno, 1 ft-lb of torque less than the STi. Testing was one in California, so we can expect better acceleration thoughout the rest of the country. They wrapped up the article and made the MR their choice of the two, said it just edged out the STi due to driving feel, not numbers. My brother in Toronto has an STi with a few mods, turbo-back, intake and computer, and is a blast to drive. I chose the MR and will be here soon, I just like the look better and the exclusivity of 1 of 1000. Plus there is a lot with the MR over the EVO GSR, 6-speed, shocks, HID's that are OPTIONAL on the '05 GSR, plus the rest of the candy we already know. Pick either the MR or STi, you could'nt be dissapointed with either.

 

The big deal is not in top speed, but in the closer gear ratios in 4th, 5th, and 6th. The 5-speed is fast through 4th gear, but once you shift into 5th it loses a lot. It drives me crazy when I run through the gears and go to shift in to 5th and have such a huge drop in RPMs. Although the first 4 gears are pretty close in both transmissions, 5th gear is much closer to 4th, and 6th is a little higher than 5th in the 5-speed.

 

you make it sound so simplistic, go out and buy some bbs wheels and bilstein shocks, you will find they are not cheap, also you get an aluminum roof, vortec generator, 6speed tranny which has been tested that between shifts it stays in the power band better than the 5, mitsu 3 guage combo is standard which cost over over 7hundred, pedals/shift knob/badges and an exclusive color made for the MR, and also its limited production.

 

Jag, I own an Evo. I'm not putting it down. The MAIN hate point against the Evo in the standard STi vs. Evo comparison is the RIDE. The other comparison point is always the 6 speed in the Sti vs. the 5 speed in the standard Evo. The MR corrects that. If you try to purchase the Bilsteins seperately it will cost you close to $2000.00. Of course adding your own 6 speed would be rediculous for the price. So the real issue is why compare the STi to the standard Evo when we have the MR that gives you the "TOTAL PACKAGE" in comparison to the STi?

 

Exactally HuskerEvo, apples to apples.

 

I have owned a WRX. I also closely follow the Subaru forums. It has not proven easy to modify the STi. Many smaller problems have plagued them. The Evo is clearly winning in the battle of modifications. Granted, it is an unfair comparison considering the 4G63 has been around a long time and has a HUGE aftermarket.

I'm not sure why you are not looking at an MR if an STi is one of your options. The MR will give you a much better daily driver than the standard Evo. I'm not saying that the standard Evo doesn't compare to the STi (I own one!). It does hold up quite well (especially with those few small mods ). If I hadn't already purchased my Evo, I would definitely have purchased the MR.

Go out to NASIOC and you'll see all kinds of issues with getting the 2.5 to pump out the kind of hp that is EASY to do in an Evo.

 

If cheap, poor quality leather, a hole in your roof to take away body rigidity and add weight, and a stereo thats not anywhere close to what you could get in the aftermarket and EASILY install yourself is your idea of what makes a good Evo....
Well I think you can see what my opinion is already. Please give us the luxury of deciding for ourselves if the MR is worth it or not. Your rambling comes off as little more than propaganda.