View Poll Results: Choose which ones will influence your decision
Wow, 300hp, 300 ft-lbs from 2.5L Subaru boxer engine
152
22.25%
Proven tuning potential of the Mitsubishi 4G63
355
51.98%
Subaru\'s strong 6-speed manual tranny
138
20.20%
Mitsubishi\'s dependable 5-speed tranny
109
15.96%
DCCD on the STi... wish Evo had ACD
132
19.33%
Stock FMIC on the Evo
164
24.01%
Exterior looks
305
44.66%
Interior quality
148
21.67%
Gross Vehicle Weight
79
11.57%
I want to test drive both before deciding
165
24.16%
Price
261
38.21%
Body Shell Rigidity
133
19.47%
Brakes
163
23.87%
0 - 60 mph and 1/4 mile times
201
29.43%
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Evo vs. STI | Anything and Everything [ALL THREADS MERGED]
Originally Posted by burningmoney97
who wouldnt ...
Originally Posted by Alias
Actually......I still wouldn't choose the MR over the GSR if I haven't bought an EVO. If it was for the same amount of money, sure I would. But the fact is it is not the same price. Not that I cannot afford the MR, but I seriously would not paid around 37k (my est. including tax, license, etc) for a Mitsu. Don't get me wrong, I love my EVO but not to the point that it's worth 37k of love for a Mitsu. Maybe I am just getting old. I almost have to agree with the BMW owners about the EVO, that is.... I really don't want or need the attention from the ricers. After all, most of the attention that we EVO owner get are from ricers. No flames please, just my own opinion and not yours.
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Originally Posted by Alias
Actually......I still wouldn't choose the MR over the GSR if I haven't bought an EVO. If it was for the same amount of money, sure I would. But the fact is it is not the same price. Not that I cannot afford the MR, but I seriously would not paid around 37k (my est. including tax, license, etc) for a Mitsu. Don't get me wrong, I love my EVO but not to the point that it's worth 37k of love for a Mitsu. Maybe I am just getting old. I almost have to agree with the BMW owners about the EVO, that is.... I really don't want or need the attention from the ricers. After all, most of the attention that we EVO owner get are from ricers. No flames please, just my own opinion and not yours.
Last edited by evo8MR; Sep 30, 2004 at 09:15 AM.
[QUOTE=burningmoney97]
what does this gsr stand for? and how come its not shown on any of the new models to buy?
The "GSR" is the japanese domestic market name for the regular Evo VIII.
In japan there are three trims: RS, GSR, MR. In the US there are three trims as well, but only two have names: RS, MR. So everybody calls the regular Evo the "GSR".
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Originally Posted by JohnnyTwoThumbsPlus there is a lot with the MR over the EVO GSR, 6-speed, shocks, HID's that are OPTIONAL on the '05 GSR, QUOTE
what does this gsr stand for? and how come its not shown on any of the new models to buy?
The "GSR" is the japanese domestic market name for the regular Evo VIII.
In japan there are three trims: RS, GSR, MR. In the US there are three trims as well, but only two have names: RS, MR. So everybody calls the regular Evo the "GSR".
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Originally Posted by evo8MR
Ricers im sure love evo's, but say a m3 is next to you, im sure that guy is thinking damn that car can kick my ***, not man thats a cheap rice car. I think the evo in general demands more respect than your avg rice car no matter what car the other guys got.
if a guy has a m3, or mercedes, or any car that costs wayyy more than a evo, the guy is probably thinking, 'haha, he paid a crapload for a rougher ride, no navi, no leather seats, and couldn't even break 12's in under 91 decibals. I could of bought it, but it'd be a waste of money.' Most of those guys probably grew out of the stripped out hondas running 12 sec 1/4's that's loud and give headaches. Rather they'd buy a 13 sec luxury car out of the box.
Think about it, a E55amg automatic next to a evo. Sorry man, E55 amg wins hands down in pimp factor, and overall class.
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Originally Posted by Alias
Actually......I still wouldn't choose the MR over the GSR if I haven't bought an EVO. If it was for the same amount of money, sure I would. But the fact is it is not the same price. Not that I cannot afford the MR, but I seriously would not paid around 37k (my est. including tax, license, etc) for a Mitsu. Don't get me wrong, I love my EVO but not to the point that it's worth 37k of love for a Mitsu. Maybe I am just getting old. I almost have to agree with the BMW owners about the EVO, that is.... I really don't want or need the attention from the ricers. After all, most of the attention that we EVO owner get are from ricers. No flames please, just my own opinion and not yours.
When we get the MSRP for the 05s, then lets compare accurate prices (including taxes) for both. This is still all speculation, the more common estimates now seem to be just under 35. I'm thinking that 05 GSRs will break 30k with the improvements. There are no doubt at least 5k worth of upgrades and standard options on the MR, it really is just what it is worth to you.
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Originally Posted by mr96gsx408
actually...
if a guy has a m3, or mercedes, or any car that costs wayyy more than a evo, the guy is probably thinking, 'haha, he paid a crapload for a rougher ride, no navi, no leather seats, and couldn't even break 12's in under 91 decibals. I could of bought it, but it'd be a waste of money.' Most of those guys probably grew out of the stripped out hondas running 12 sec 1/4's that's loud and give headaches. Rather they'd buy a 13 sec luxury car out of the box.
Think about it, a E55amg automatic next to a evo. Sorry man, E55 amg wins hands down in pimp factor, and overall class.
if a guy has a m3, or mercedes, or any car that costs wayyy more than a evo, the guy is probably thinking, 'haha, he paid a crapload for a rougher ride, no navi, no leather seats, and couldn't even break 12's in under 91 decibals. I could of bought it, but it'd be a waste of money.' Most of those guys probably grew out of the stripped out hondas running 12 sec 1/4's that's loud and give headaches. Rather they'd buy a 13 sec luxury car out of the box.
Think about it, a E55amg automatic next to a evo. Sorry man, E55 amg wins hands down in pimp factor, and overall class.
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Originally Posted by evo8MR
im not really into bmw and mercedes, I want a performance car and if you compare the m3 to the evo MR edition, the m3 will lose in every category except ergonomics, which is not important to me. You spend 50g's on an M3 and it will lose to a 35k mitsubishi, and the M-series is bmw's racing edition, which is weak on the track. Im young and going to enjoy my youth, if i had a lot of money the e55 amg grandfathermatic would not even be on my list of cars to have.
Originally Posted by evo55
The EVO used in WRC doesn't have electronic differential. They are all mechanical including the 2.0liter EJ20.
Ralliart homologated ACD and SAYC for group N cars so they will be using the production based active diffs. All competitive WRC cars have active differentials.
Last edited by erikgj; Sep 30, 2004 at 12:18 PM.
Originally Posted by twinevo
It's not MR hating, I'd love to have the MR just for it's uniqueness, but for an extra $5G, I decided to go ahead and buy an 04 GSR. Why, because I'm all about performance. I don't see the MR as being worth the extra 5G. Yeah, its a little faster and the ride is a little better but do you think it is worth that much. Just imagine what kind of a machine you could have for 5G worth of mods.
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Originally Posted by erikgj
I would buy a 05 VIII before the '04. Very close in price better turbo, torsen front, ACD. They remove HIDs and water spray. I would also take an '05 VIII over an '05 STi. Plus the '05 include a period of free maintenance.The MR over a '05 VIII is harder to choose but I am going with the MR. Seen plenty of modded cars that are not as good as stock.
Originally Posted by mr96gsx408
my prediction:
the MR will come and many people will buy it. As what they said about the regular evo being a limited production car, the MR will sell like hotcakes because of mindless rich mitsubishi enthusiasts, thinking it's a limited production car. Regular evo 8's will be sold cheap to 16 year olds that just got their drivers licenses, like how dsm's were.
then, mitsu will release rumors of a new EVO MR type R edition 232432432 with AYC!
Then the rumors, hype and all the MR vs. MR with AYC threads will begin.
lol, then all the MR owners that pre-ordered it and paid an arm and a leg will get pissed, because the new 0x MR's with AYC just costs a few thousand more which by now is around the 40k range... screw a z06 or a c6! (i'd have a z06 over an evo any day)
and let the c@ck envy begin again...
i'm happy with my gsr evo i paid under MSRP for...
and my econonmics prof predicted that gas prices will be up to upper 3 lower 4 dollars at the end of the decade. I definately hope that's not true
the MR will come and many people will buy it. As what they said about the regular evo being a limited production car, the MR will sell like hotcakes because of mindless rich mitsubishi enthusiasts, thinking it's a limited production car. Regular evo 8's will be sold cheap to 16 year olds that just got their drivers licenses, like how dsm's were.
then, mitsu will release rumors of a new EVO MR type R edition 232432432 with AYC!
Then the rumors, hype and all the MR vs. MR with AYC threads will begin.
lol, then all the MR owners that pre-ordered it and paid an arm and a leg will get pissed, because the new 0x MR's with AYC just costs a few thousand more which by now is around the 40k range... screw a z06 or a c6! (i'd have a z06 over an evo any day)
and let the c@ck envy begin again...
i'm happy with my gsr evo i paid under MSRP for...
and my econonmics prof predicted that gas prices will be up to upper 3 lower 4 dollars at the end of the decade. I definately hope that's not true
Originally Posted by The Bear
So you guys won't be paying tax on the 05 GSRs
When we get the MSRP for the 05s, then lets compare accurate prices (including taxes) for both. This is still all speculation, the more common estimates now seem to be just under 35. I'm thinking that 05 GSRs will break 30k with the improvements. There are no doubt at least 5k worth of upgrades and standard options on the MR, it really is just what it is worth to you.
When we get the MSRP for the 05s, then lets compare accurate prices (including taxes) for both. This is still all speculation, the more common estimates now seem to be just under 35. I'm thinking that 05 GSRs will break 30k with the improvements. There are no doubt at least 5k worth of upgrades and standard options on the MR, it really is just what it is worth to you.
Just use MSRP.
Originally Posted by burningmoney97
true , but if money wasnt an issue , you would get an mr.
. So again, if I haven't bought the EVO, I still wouldn't buy the MR. I just think that your comment about "who wouldn't" is not true. Because clearly there are people that have not gotten an EVO and they will decide to get the GSR instead of the MR not because of the price...but because of other things such as they want sunroof or leather or whatever else. So to answer your comment of "who wouldn't", those that haven't gotten the EVO but still chooses the GSR over the MR wouldn't. Again that is just my opinion and no one elses. I apologize if I seem to come off as a ahole, but I am just trying to get my point across.
