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Proven tuning potential of the Mitsubishi 4G63
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DCCD on the STi... wish Evo had ACD
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24.16%
Price
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38.21%
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Brakes
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 11:45 PM
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There is a report for the 2005 STi and it comes with wider tires, yaw sensor in the DCCD, underbody aerodynamics, new steering wheel, new colors, new steering rack and suspension stuff. All that seems to make it more on-par with the Evo handling-wise.

Now, Mitsu should update the 2005 models and bring us the Evo MR for MY2005!
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by Lancer03oz
there was none... so get over the whats what and whose who.... burn that STi in your evo soon!
yer crazy man!!!!
but i hope to be burning all cars in an evo soon... just gotta be patient.
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Old Mar 30, 2004 | 08:21 PM
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are the IRG ratings of the wrx and the evo 8 the same?
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Old Mar 31, 2004 | 12:37 AM
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Originally posted by RA29
There is a report for the 2005 STi and it comes with wider tires, yaw sensor in the DCCD, underbody aerodynamics, new steering wheel, new colors, new steering rack and suspension stuff. All that seems to make it more on-par with the Evo handling-wise.
I may just have to pick one of those up to keep my evo company
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Old Mar 31, 2004 | 01:27 AM
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Now if either company could just provide US buyers with a no-cost "I have thinner hips" seating option. Sigh.

Originally posted by RA29
There is a report for the 2005 STi and it comes with wider tires, yaw sensor in the DCCD, underbody aerodynamics, new steering wheel, new colors, new steering rack and suspension stuff. All that seems to make it more on-par with the Evo handling-wise.

Now, Mitsu should update the 2005 models and bring us the Evo MR for MY2005!
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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 05:34 PM
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I live in New Zealand, so the evo 8 we get is the full version one (with active yaw control etc), while the STi we get is the the 2.0 version.

So I'd rather have EVO 8 than the STi..

However now that the new wrx STi WR1 is out, that would be my top choice, then the evo 8 (a black one like on project gotham racing 2), the thirdly a STi..
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 12:10 PM
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ha, kiwi's rule! all blacks baby...
anyhow, it would be nice if we got the full version one, but then prices would be through the roof. the evo here without all the bells an whistles is still a great car.
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 01:16 PM
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Well, I used to own a light-tuned STi until it was stolen earlier this week, and soon, I'll be an Evo owner.

Not that the STi was crap, and I really do miss it but I, for one, have always liked the mean looks of the Evo IV - VI, the VII and VIII I didn't like it that much at first but it just kept growing on me. Now? I consider the VIII's looks as "badass". As far as power goes, stock for stock, I really liked the low end torque of the STi. This was a deciding factor because when I drove my first Evo last summer in my dad's modded Evo VI T.M.E, the lack of low end torque was quite obvious. Starting in 2nd in city traffic would make the car buck while it was non-existence in the STi. Other than that the mid and high end felt similar. The 6-speed gearbox and cruise control of the STi sounds really tempting, I have one extra gear over the Evo, right? The thing is, I rarely needed it, except roadtrips. Even then I didn't use the cruise control. I didn't play around with the DCCD either except when I needed to do 6k rpm launches. Otherwise the Auto mode pretty does everything for you. Interior quality for the STi was very impressive, soft plastic which looked almost on par with a 3 series Bimmer IMO. The Evo, as everyone already knew, doesn't have the best interior for a 29K car, but I do like the roominess of it, at least that's what it seems to be. The Recaro's are also a much better fit for my built (5'9-10, 180) unlike the stock STi seats which didn't have the lateral support as I would like to. Last thing, the new EJ257 of the USDM STi was not the easiest engine to put out major HP. The turbine requires wastegate porting once you decided to TB it or else it's boost creep heaven. Once it goes beyond stock, it's the 4G63 that has the advantage over the EJ257, at least until the day the new EJ has been R&D well enough that it can pump out 400awhp consistently. Until then, I'll go with the Evo.
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 01:18 PM
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"Anything and Everything" sounds like an understatement....
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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 08:20 PM
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I got an Evo, and I think an STi would fit nicely in the garage as well...

Hmm what car am I going to drive today? haha. Sounds good to me
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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 11:34 PM
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Originally posted by Raman
Well, I used to own a light-tuned STi until it was stolen earlier this week, and soon, I'll be an Evo owner.

Not that the STi was crap, and I really do miss it but I, for one, have always liked the mean looks of the Evo IV - VI, the VII and VIII I didn't like it that much at first but it just kept growing on me. Now? I consider the VIII's looks as "badass". As far as power goes, stock for stock, I really liked the low end torque of the STi. This was a deciding factor because when I drove my first Evo last summer in my dad's modded Evo VI T.M.E, the lack of low end torque was quite obvious. Starting in 2nd in city traffic would make the car buck while it was non-existence in the STi. Other than that the mid and high end felt similar. The 6-speed gearbox and cruise control of the STi sounds really tempting, I have one extra gear over the Evo, right? The thing is, I rarely needed it, except roadtrips. Even then I didn't use the cruise control. I didn't play around with the DCCD either except when I needed to do 6k rpm launches. Otherwise the Auto mode pretty does everything for you. Interior quality for the STi was very impressive, soft plastic which looked almost on par with a 3 series Bimmer IMO. The Evo, as everyone already knew, doesn't have the best interior for a 29K car, but I do like the roominess of it, at least that's what it seems to be. The Recaro's are also a much better fit for my built (5'9-10, 180) unlike the stock STi seats which didn't have the lateral support as I would like to. Last thing, the new EJ257 of the USDM STi was not the easiest engine to put out major HP. The turbine requires wastegate porting once you decided to TB it or else it's boost creep heaven. Once it goes beyond stock, it's the 4G63 that has the advantage over the EJ257, at least until the day the new EJ has been R&D well enough that it can pump out 400awhp consistently. Until then, I'll go with the Evo.

That's funny, I felt the exact opposite, and I do agree with you on alot of things to. When I first got into evoing, I thought the STI is just butt ulgy and I didnt like it . Well, the first STI that I saw in real life is a silver, which explain it all. My second was a blue and then a white, those STI just blew me away. After modding the EVO and spent over 3K, I felt like I have been wasting alot of money and risking a huge debt on my hand if the EVO decided to go south on me. With even the modest upgrade, the warranty is voided for sure. Although it is fun to mod the evo, but it got old after a while. Now I'm thinking about trading in my EVO and shoot for the 05 or used STI. Dont hate.....
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 12:30 PM
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Well, I used to own a light-tuned STi until it was stolen earlier this week, and soon, I'll be an Evo owner.

How was your car stolen. Did you have the security system with kill switch. I'd think you'd be nervous about having your new car stolen.....again.
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by vegetta



How was your car stolen. Did you have the security system with kill switch. I'd think you'd be nervous about having your new car stolen.....again.
STi's don't have engine immobilizer and thiefs like WRXs.
Go to NASIOC to see how they get stolen with and without alarm.
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 07:05 PM
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How was your car stolen. Did you have the security system with kill switch. I'd think you'd be nervous about having your new car stolen.....again.
From imprezawrxsti.com:

stock alarm disables starter for 30 sec.
Regardless of having an immobilizer or not, I don't know how my car was stolen and it still puzzles me how they did it. Almost 2 weeks and I've yet to find my STi nor a white Evo anywhere close in the Tri-state area. Oh well.

I thought the STI is just butt ulgy and I didnt like it . Well, the first STI that I saw in real life is a silver, which explain it all. My second was a blue and then a white, those STI just blew me away.
lol, the first Evo VIII I saw in person was a white one, and then a yellow, but the white one was just and the STi began to look a little uhh...less appealing? Dull?
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 11:26 AM
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Wow, I really like how my poll on buying decision factors was merged with all this other crap. Now it's impossible to browse the 63 pages (in my view) and follow any of the discussions.

Sometimes it's better to leave threads separate, even when you wrongly think they're the same, because they have different purposes.
Another reason to keep them separate is that information becomes out of date, so newer threads shouldn't be merged with old ones that are obsolete.

My poll had far more views too
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