Didn't both test the cars? I thought I saw a little blurb that said something about Rod Millen coming to the "same" conclusions at a later test drive. Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

I will correct me! Daniel Pund was the guy who did the test drive for Car and Driver and in the side bar it was Rod Millen who did it afterwards.

 

Sorry about that I don't know what I'm saying anymore

 

yes?

 

Tiff rules and that girl is damn cute AND can drive unlike virtually every woman I've ever had the pleasure (or displeasure) of knowing.

 

Ya umm how the heck did he just rip the center console like that..for the ppl with USDM Evo's...does your middle console jus come off like that..all the Evo's I've been in don't seem liek they did... if they di..thas pretyt funny..

 

I know that with each new version subaru and Mitsubishi both claim their chassis' are 100% more rigid than before.

But does anyone actually know the numbers?

Thanks

 

Don't know actual numbers but when deciding which car to buy I was able to find plenty of information concerning how the EVO was stiffened compared to the Lancer donor chassis. Go to the EVO encyclopedia on this site and you'll find the additional braces that were installed. There is also information somewhere concerning the 200 additional welds around the door openings.
Check this link: https://www.evolutionm.net/features/...agenumber=6&s=

All I found for the STi was that the 04 Impreza chassis was improved. I did not find any specific info about what made the STi structurally different. I think that somewhere it was reported that the lack of the STi sunroof was due to additional "ring reinforcemnt" in the roof but nothing specific.

 

I'm in quandry- I've got what I consider to be a very well sorted WRX that can see autox/track/rallyx/grocery getting duties.

I'm running the STi RA suspension (struts/springs/sways) w/ the full compliment of Grp N bushings (strut tops/engine/tranny/rear diff mounts/lateral/trailing links), TE37's wrapped w/ Toyo T1S's (summer), oe rims wrapped w/ Nokian NRWS winter/gravel.

I'm running a STi catless uppipe and Hayward and Scott downpipe and catback. Samco intercooler/turbo inlet/airbox hoses. Ecutek reflashed ecu. HP/torque ~ 280ish crank. Spoolup is lightning, low/midrange torque excellent.

Brakes are oe calipers w/ Endless CCX front/NAY's rear, Goodridge lines, Motul fluid, DBA club spec two piece rotors front.

Primitive skid plates front/rear diff, Morette HID's.

I test drove a EVO the other day, not as a hard as I would like, but enough to get a good feel.

I like the brake setup of the EVO, nice calipers, big rotors- new pads, lines, fluid and track fade will likely not be a problem. This is a big plus over the WRX (ofcourse a $2500 AP setup would cure the rex).

I like the 13:1 quick steering rack. I don't like the 16:1 rack of the WRX.

I like the aluminum suspension bits- front control arms, rear multi link- even the cross member! There are evidently some pillow ball bushings in the mix, but not pointed out which ones.

I like the fact that it comes w/ real tires.

I like the fact that rear camber is adjustable.

The wheels, while nice looking are a bit heavy at 22 lbs- TE37's would cure that woe and the Enkies would make good winter/gravel wheels.

I like the fact the EVO has several forged components in the engine.

I don't like the lag, even w/ the twin scroll it's not close to the WRX on spool. With a bigger turbo and a FMIC that is to be expected- but I still don't like it.
There are surely ways to quicken the spool of the EVO (but I don't know what they are).

The springs while better than the oe WRX, must be softer than the STi RA setup (more body roll)- hopefully this could be easily rectified. There was quite a bit of understeer w/ the EVO (as was the case w/ the WRX oe) and I'm sure w/ a smaller front sway bar and some alignment tweaks it would be much more neutral.

The rear taillights- enough said there

All in all a very good car w/ many pluses (and a few minuses). The down side is I will have to pay for those pluses. MSRP $29,500 (won't pay a penny over) - minus my trade $18,000 = $11,500 minus the ~ $2500 I can get for bits off of my car- roughly $9,000.

Worth it? The million dollar question.

Any thoughts would be welcome.

Big Sky

 

Yes.

 

I dont miss my WRX at all - - the evo is vastly superior in so many ways - - - only the SLOWbaRU smooth idel; exhaust tone and interior ventalation is missed

 

I guess everyone failed to notice the STi was much faster 0-60mph. It was also much faster in the street start 5-60mph.

The STi also completely killed the EVO in top end power. The STi ran to 130mph 4 seconds faster. 4 seconds at 130mph is a huge distance.

 

Yeah, but that's not a surprise. The STI is rated to have 29 more HP and 27 more ft/lbs of torque. It should beat the EVO's *** in those categories and it did. Good job.

 

not surprised on the straight...
but who cares, in the end it was slower around the course.

like I always say, hp is easily gained...handling is a challenge.