View Poll Results: Choose which ones will influence your decision
Wow, 300hp, 300 ft-lbs from 2.5L Subaru boxer engine
152
22.25%
Proven tuning potential of the Mitsubishi 4G63
355
51.98%
Subaru\'s strong 6-speed manual tranny
138
20.20%
Mitsubishi\'s dependable 5-speed tranny
109
15.96%
DCCD on the STi... wish Evo had ACD
132
19.33%
Stock FMIC on the Evo
164
24.01%
Exterior looks
305
44.66%
Interior quality
148
21.67%
Gross Vehicle Weight
79
11.57%
I want to test drive both before deciding
165
24.16%
Price
261
38.21%
Body Shell Rigidity
133
19.47%
Brakes
163
23.87%
0 - 60 mph and 1/4 mile times
201
29.43%
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Evo vs. STI | Anything and Everything [ALL THREADS MERGED]
Evolving Member
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Originally posted by trs94
To go much higher than the Stg 1, I'm sure Shiv is looking at a turbo to flow more cfm and bigger injectors for the STi.
To go much higher than the Stg 1, I'm sure Shiv is looking at a turbo to flow more cfm and bigger injectors for the STi.
http://www.clubwrx.net/forums/showth...&pagenumber=15
Question
Sounds good Dan. I can't wait for the results! Any idea as to how much power you are trying to make?
At least 450 whp.
Originally posted by pk!
Shiv's dyno on 91.
don't get around much do you
pk!
Shiv's dyno on 91.
don't get around much do you
pk!
anyway, you'll be happy with either car. both have their advantages. in a nutshell: STI for the drag strip and EVO for the road course.
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Originally posted by GranMassaX
yeah good one, smarty. Oh no i missed the little thing that said "vishnu performance" on the dyno sheet. I'm sorry that I was looking at the more important things like the figures instead, idiot.
yeah good one, smarty. Oh no i missed the little thing that said "vishnu performance" on the dyno sheet. I'm sorry that I was looking at the more important things like the figures instead, idiot.
in a nutshell: STI for the drag strip and EVO for the road course.
Originally posted by Rafal
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I think he was quite polite to you. He just made a simple innocent joke. You are a little too fast calling names around.
STi for a drag strip? It's cheaper and faster to get a Camaro and tune it up. Why do you think STi would be bad on a street course? Because of a couple tens of the second reviewers managed to get in EVO over STi? Strange.....
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I think he was quite polite to you. He just made a simple innocent joke. You are a little too fast calling names around.
STi for a drag strip? It's cheaper and faster to get a Camaro and tune it up. Why do you think STi would be bad on a street course? Because of a couple tens of the second reviewers managed to get in EVO over STi? Strange.....
Originally posted by Rafal
STi for a drag strip? It's cheaper and faster to get a Camaro and tune it up. Why do you think STi would be bad on a street course? Because of a couple tens of the second reviewers managed to get in EVO over STi? Strange..... [/B]
STi for a drag strip? It's cheaper and faster to get a Camaro and tune it up. Why do you think STi would be bad on a street course? Because of a couple tens of the second reviewers managed to get in EVO over STi? Strange.....
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?. And please, don't gimme that Mr.Sensitive act stuff. I'm not STI bashing.... if I was then you would definately know it. Stop being so defensive, sheesh
Last edited by GranMassaX; Sep 15, 2003 at 01:30 PM.
Evolving Member
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Originally posted by GranMassaX
the evo is a better car in the road course and there is no doubt about that. It's been proven and proven again. Better handling, not that "soft" feeling of the STI. And on the average I've seen more figures of STI's beating EVO's in the 1/4 mile (by professional divers in a "stock" car), but I have seen a few EVO's win (can't say that about STI's in the road course though). If you were to say that the STI is faster because of the reviewers say it is a fraction of a second faster than the evo in the 1/4, would that be strange........ ?.
the evo is a better car in the road course and there is no doubt about that. It's been proven and proven again. Better handling, not that "soft" feeling of the STI. And on the average I've seen more figures of STI's beating EVO's in the 1/4 mile (by professional divers in a "stock" car), but I have seen a few EVO's win (can't say that about STI's in the road course though). If you were to say that the STI is faster because of the reviewers say it is a fraction of a second faster than the evo in the 1/4, would that be strange........
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So as you probably guessed, the STi and Evo must have been real close. In fact, they were extremely close. Final lap times resulted in the STi taking the overall best time by 1/10th of a second (in the hands of one of a Vortex staffer no less). The Evo and STi came within less than 1/100th on the top 10 averaged times. Owing perhaps to the comfort level people felt in the Evo over the STi at the limts, the averaged times closed the gap between the two cars. The drivers that were willing to put their faith in the STi were rewarded with slightly faster lap times (although still only by a tenth of a second).
Re: # of EVO's vs. # of STI's?
Originally posted by cjb
I'm in Silicon Valley, and it really seems like there are more STI's than there are EVO's. There is one EVO that I always see at my hockey games, but other than that, I haven't really seen too many in the valley.
Does anyone know the production #'s of each of these? I thought the STI was supposed to be harder to get, but is it really?
I'm in Silicon Valley, and it really seems like there are more STI's than there are EVO's. There is one EVO that I always see at my hockey games, but other than that, I haven't really seen too many in the valley.
Does anyone know the production #'s of each of these? I thought the STI was supposed to be harder to get, but is it really?
Last edited by evo_dadi; Sep 15, 2003 at 08:21 PM.
I would think there is more EVO's out and about.....since we have 4 Mitsu dealers and only 1 Subaru dealer.......I have seen more Sti's on the road 2 vs 1 EVO, I thought I would see more but not so far. Where are the EVO's hiding!!!!!
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From: Orange County
Then we'd all be a bunch of babbling idiots (legally anyways) making up stories about our cars in an effort to impress the other babbling idiots on the forums. Actually, anybody who knows car guys should know that only about half of what we say is true - the rest is embellishment which is similar to garnish and condiments. Nobody likes a dry burger 
-Josh
-Josh
Originally posted by Butt Dyno
I'm not missing the point, I'm discussing one particular part of this comparison, which is the transmission...
Evo:
Gear Ratios
1: 2.928:1
2: 1.950:1
3: 1.407:1
4: 1.031:1
5: 0.720:1
STi:
1st - 3.636
2nd - 2.375
3rd - 1.761
4th - 1.346
5th - 0.971
6th - 0.756
The Evo's 3rd is roughly the STi's 4th...
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I'm not missing the point, I'm discussing one particular part of this comparison, which is the transmission...
Evo:
Gear Ratios
1: 2.928:1
2: 1.950:1
3: 1.407:1
4: 1.031:1
5: 0.720:1
STi:
1st - 3.636
2nd - 2.375
3rd - 1.761
4th - 1.346
5th - 0.971
6th - 0.756
The Evo's 3rd is roughly the STi's 4th...
a
-bd
Evo gear speeds at 7000rpm:
1st: 40mph
2nd: 60mph
3rd: 83mph
4th: 113mph
5th: 162mph
(4.529:1)
STi gear speeds at 7000rpm:
1st: 37mph
2nd: 56mph
3rd: 76mph
4th: 99mph
5th: 137mph OUCH!!!!
6th: 176mph
(3.90:1)
As you can see, the STi's 5th is way too tall. It should be something shorter than a .971 gear, and something exciting like a 1.07 gear that would allow it to redline 5th at 125mph instead. As it is stacked, the ratio spacing is crappy, IMO.
Why did I restore this old thred you may ask? Because it was near the top! My display for Evom from Safari just puts random old threads near the front sometimes. I have NO IDEA why.