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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 10:02 PM
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As for Dave, just tell him I'm ready when he is. Is race gas allowed? I'm cool if not. We could set up Memo's car on some race gas and that will be that for "betty" We roll deep if you just want to talk about other people's cars While we're at it, I'll run your S4 too. Trust me, it will be embarrasing...

I know I'm being a dick but here is the simple fact. DTM DOES NOT HAVE THE FASTEST EVO IN THE AREA AND PROBABLY NEVER WILL!
Memo's car is not a VIP Garage car as much as you like to think so. Now Memo is a very nice guy who I have no issues with and I'm in no means bashing his ca. In fact, it was the damn wallpaper on my phone for a month. If we want to talk "shop" cars, he has a Buschur car. No one is talking about Buschur here. As much as you like to think Memo's car represents anything you are associated with aside from your friendship, it doesn't. There will be a 37R car soon that will keep up with him as well. While were at it, how about we run your Range Rover. What a stupid remark. The S4 has been de-modded and is waiting in the garage with no plates or insurance waiting to go to my kid sister. Again I don't speak for Dave, just pointing out what Carlos said. You can take up the race gas issue with him. Later.

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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by VIPGarage
like i said i am not worried about trying to justify anything to anyone from the koolaid crew. specially not some typical teenage fanboy. Marty said it all. We'll just work on winning more and more races. Seems like we've been doing that just fine.
Fanboy? Because I go to a shop that doesn't goof up simple bolt on installs, can fab me up parts on the spot, and can actually tune my car in house, all the while giving me the opportunity to learn to work on cars and being great mentors as well as friends...if that makes me a fanboy so be it. Again, what are you doing to win races? You keep making general statements like that which reveal nothing. If you think your the reason they're winning so be it, and I don't know enough to say you aren't. However I'm having my doubts now that it has become such a huge issue with no clear answer. You just keep on winning races and I'll just keep being a teenage idiot who knows nothing.
Old Jun 23, 2007 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JordanS4
Memo's car is not a VIP Garage car as much as you like to think so. Now Memo is a very nice guy who I have no issues with and I'm in no means bashing his ca. In fact, it was the damn wallpaper on my phone for a month. If we want to talk "shop" cars, he has a Buschur car. No one is talking about Buschur here. As much as you like to think Memo's car represents anything you are associated with aside from your friendship, it doesn't. There will be a 37R car soon that will keep up with him as well. While were at it, how about we run your Range Rover. What a stupid remark. The S4 has been de-modded and is waiting in the garage to go to my kid sister. Again I don't speak for Dave, just pointing out what Carlos said. You can take up the race gas issue with him. Later.
This is my thread and not VIPs hence when you talk about somebody racing me, they are racing me and not VIP or ISP so get your facts right. So if you want to brag about "betty" let the owner do it.

When DTM builds a 37r that runs faster than Memo's car maybe I'll respect them but again, IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN kid

I'll run your S4 anytime with the Range. Just bring it to any local mountain
Old Jun 23, 2007 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by JordanS4
Fanboy? Because I go to a shop that doesn't goof up simple bolt on installs, can fab me up parts on the spot, and can actually tune my car in house, all the while giving me the opportunity to learn to work on cars and being great mentors as well as friends...if that makes me a fanboy so be it. Again, what are you doing to win races? You keep making general statements like that which reveal nothing. If you think your the reason they're winning so be it, and I don't know enough to say you aren't. However I'm having my doubts now that it has become such a huge issue with no clear answer. You just keep on winning races and I'll just keep being a teenage idiot who knows nothing.
one of the guys just got on here himself and posted a little about what we do and how he feels about us and you continue to look for a reason to bicker? What do you want me to do? Tell you everything we have done on these cars? We have HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS of hours in each of these cars. I am NOT going to sit here and spread other people's business or give away anything that we have done that has obviously given us the edge to continue with podium finishes EVERYTIME!

man, this is like the topic of the thread and people talking **** to Cem and giving him **** for stuff that has nothing to do with them. This is a guy that is VERY happy with his car and you all are still messing with him. I mean really, you need a hobby.

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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 10:12 PM
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sound like a bunch of whiny *****es!
Old Jun 23, 2007 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 34Turbo
This is my thread and not VIPs hence when you talk about somebody racing me, they are racing me and not VIP or ISP so get your facts right. So if you want to brag about "betty" let the owner do it.

When DTM builds a 37r that runs faster than Memo's car maybe I'll respect them but again, IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN kid

I'll run your S4 anytime with the Range. Just bring it to any local mountain
god i would pay to see junior here try to talk **** to Cem in person. lol
Old Jun 23, 2007 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by JordanS4
Fanboy? Because I go to a shop that doesn't goof up simple bolt on installs, can fab me up parts on the spot, and can actually tune my car in house, all the while giving me the opportunity to learn to work on cars and being great mentors as well as friends...if that makes me a fanboy so be it. Again, what are you doing to win races? You keep making general statements like that which reveal nothing. If you think your the reason they're winning so be it, and I don't know enough to say you aren't. However I'm having my doubts now that it has become such a huge issue with no clear answer. You just keep on winning races and I'll just keep being a teenage idiot who knows nothing.

Dude seriously how much power does your car make? Its got a bunch of bolt ons and you're calling that fabbing up parts. DTM tuned cars don't make power that you can brag about.
Old Jun 23, 2007 | 10:15 PM
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So why when someone from the koolaid crew (cool nickname by the way, did it take you 4 months to think of that too) races you they are from "DTM" if you are not from "ISP" or "VIP" How can DTM build a 37R that runs faster than Memo's car when he doesn't go to the track. Do you want us to beat him with dyno #'s? It is YOUR thread about an ISP Tuned VIP turbo kit. If your car is faster than a DTM car, it won't be just "your" car then unless you open the Turkish Express Garage and build the car yourself. Your car is fast due to the shops work, so it IS about shops here. This is a pointless arguement. Enjoy the car, I'm sure it's plenty fast, I don't want to argue this anymore.
Old Jun 23, 2007 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 34Turbo
Dude seriously how much power does your car make? Its got a bunch of bolt ons and you're calling that fabbing up parts. DTM tuned cars don't make power that you can brag about.
All you care about is dyno numbers, I see that from your sig. By fabbing up parts, I mean my intercooler piping, manifold which will be going on next week (along with a 50 trim), cams, etc...That's just my car as well.

Find me another pump/alky IX with a turboback and cams that makes anywhere near 332/338 on a Mustang Dyno on a 90 degree day through a stock intercooler, a cat, airbox and filter. There is a fine line between power and reliability, and I am well on the reliability side. For a daily driver which will last me many many miles ahead, I couldn't be happier.

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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 10:21 PM
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So why when someone from the koolaid crew (cool nickname by the way, did it take you 4 months to think of that too) races you they are from "DTM" if you are not from "ISP" or "VIP" How can DTM build a 37R that runs faster than Memo's car when he doesn't go to the track. Do you want us to beat him with dyno #'s? It is YOUR thread about an ISP Tuned VIP turbo kit. If your car is faster than a DTM car, it won't be just "your" car then unless you open the Turkish Express Garage and build the car yourself. Your car is fast due to the shops work, so it IS about shops here. This is a pointless arguement. Enjoy the car, I'm sure it's plenty fast, I don't want to argue this anymore.
It is my car since everything thats on my car is owned and paid for by me. Also, I have picked all the parts and instructed Martin to do things a certain way while listening to his advice as to what will logically make sense.

On a side note. Mustang dyno numbers can be altered. Track is about the driver so no need for track numbers. We know Buschurs 37r kit could run high 9s. I want a street race. Lets say from 60-180. Let the cars do the talking
Old Jun 23, 2007 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JordanS4
All you care about is dyno numbers, I see that from your sig. By fabbing up parts, I mean my intercooler piping, manifold which will be going on next week (along with a 50 trim), cams, etc...That's just my car as well.

Find me another pump/alky IX with a turboback and cams that makes anywhere near 332/338 on a Mustang Dyno on a 90 degree day through a stock intercooler, cat, airbox and filter. There is a fine line between power and reliability, and I am well on the reliability side. For a daily driver which will last me many many miles ahead, I couldn't be happier.
Thats about what? 380/390 on a dynojet, and I'm being very generous? My IX made 395awhp/405awtq (corrected) with exactly your mods with VIP "fabbed" and installed parts at 10.8-11.2 afrs (is that safe enough for you)

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=247004

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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 10:26 PM
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Forget dyno numbers. It's all about the track. If you can't drive 500 whp to a 10 second pass, you shouldn't be driving it. Dyno numbers mean nothing if it can't get down the track in one piece in a good time. There are factors you don't see on dyno's that matter on the track, for example, the gearbox, clutch, tires, etc...Were not trying to show what a car is capable of, but what it actually CAN do.

180 on the street? Your crazier than I thought man.
Old Jun 23, 2007 | 10:29 PM
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Thats about what? 380/390 on a dynojet, and I'm being very generous? My IX made 395awhp/405awtq (corrected) with exactly your mods with VIP "fabbed" and installed parts at 10.8-11.2 afrs (is that safe enough for you)

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=247004
just let it go dude. I mean these guys never get enough i guess. You started a thread to show YOUR car that YOU'RE happy with.
Old Jun 23, 2007 | 10:29 PM
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My 333/341 on a cooler day (before cams) was on 25 psi, not 30. Also, your car blew a head gasket, and mine hasn't. What did all that TT power run on the track?
Old Jun 23, 2007 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by JordanS4
Forget dyno numbers. It's all about the track. If you can't drive 500 whp to a 10 second pass, you shouldn't be driving it. Dyno numbers mean nothing if it can't get down the track in one piece in a good time. There are factors you don't see on dyno's that matter on the track, for example, the gearbox, clutch, tires, etc...Were not trying to show what a car is capable of, but what it actually CAN do.

180 on the street? Your crazier than I thought man.
Dude you need to re-read your statement. What a car is "capable" of is what it can "actually" do if the driver is perfect. Now if you want to compare two cars built by different shops then track is logical since you can use the same driver for both cars so that you know what the car can "actually" do. If you run different drivers its no longer what the car can actually do, its what the driver can actually do. If you want to know what the car can do, you can just look at the trap speeds. If thats all you need I'll run it this coming weekend just to make you feel better, but I'm not risking my stock tranny for a 10 second run.



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