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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 08:57 AM
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As required for running the stage 2 map, does anyone know how to remove the top wastegate soleniod restrictor pill?

Pics would be helpful.
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by LVSBB6
As required for running the stage 2 map, does anyone know how to remove the top wastegate soleniod restrictor pill?

Pics would be helpful.
It's on their website... link is:

http://www.accessecu.com/accessport/...Pill_Instr.pdf
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 09:12 AM
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Great... now that the Stage 2 maps are available... does anyone know if Cobb will be making a Stage 2 for the most popular intakes, as decided in the Poll thread? Also, does anyone know if/when Cobb will be releasing a Full TBE? I could go with a different brand... i.e. Buschur? But don't want to go down the road of getting a different brand, and then find out that I'd have been better off with a Cobb (since it would be supported - like my AEM instead of Cobb SF)

Just to confirm, I would need:

- Downpipe
- High Flow Cat
- Mid Pipe
- Muffler

What are the chances that this will cause the car to start throwing codes? I do want the extra power, but, don't want any of the BS... Please comment! Thanks!
We are still in the process of making maps for the popular intakes. We're targeting February for a release, but **NOT** guaranteeing.

We also will be releasing a full TBE with a high-flow cat. The target release date is end of Febuary, but again **NOT** guaranteeing that date. For the exhaust we are at the mercy of production.

Keep in mind I'm give these dates to try and be helpful, please don't hang me with them

Currently the Stage II does not stop the P0420 code (catalyst inefficiency) from throwing, so it will cause a CEL. The P0420 code should not be confused with the P1235 or P1238 which have a debilitating effect on the performance of the car. The P0420 code will not cause issues with performance, only causes the CEL to illuminate. I'm currently working on taking care of the P0420 code which should only be a map update once it's ready.

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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by S2K2EVOXGSR
I threw one code with the AP but i think it was boost creep...
the only thing to worry about with all of that is the O2 sensor becareful removing they are pretty sensitive...
I'm pretty sure the code is being set do to the added, and unexpected, exhaust efficiency from the cat-back.

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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob@cobbtuning
Currently the Stage II does not stop the P0420 code (catalyst inefficiency) from throwing, so it will cause a CEL. The P0420 code should not be confused with the P1235 or P1238 which have a debilitating effect on the performance of the car. The P0420 code will not cause issues with performance, only causes the CEL to illuminate. I'm currently working on taking care of the P0420 code which should only be a map update once it's ready.

Thanks,
Rob
Thanks... I don't mean to be impatient (but it's in my nature)... We're all very excited to see what's coming down the pipe (so to speak) from COBB... As for the question about throwing a code, I was wondering more about whether going to a full TBE would cause the code (but good to know that it would just be a map issue that is probably easily fixed?)

I think I read on another thread that you decided to go with the Quad tips? So, if there is going to be a Full COBB TBE with the AWESOME look of the Quad tips that will work with your STG II, without throwing codes by even early March, I'll wait for that... besides, it's still Winter up here... I'll work on being more patient...

As always, thanks for the update!
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 09:28 AM
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Rob,
how would stg II work with the stock exhaust? I want to go with this but can't do an exhaust anytime soon.
Also, what is the difference with the ACN maps, are they for elevation or just for crappy gas? I am in Colorado ~5300 feet.
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob@cobbtuning
I'm pretty sure the code is being set do to the added, and unexpected, exhaust efficiency from the cat-back.

Thanks,
Does this mean that the ECU would learn that the exhaust is all of the sudden more efficient, and therefore, once you clear this type of code, you wouldn't see it again? CEL's are a huge pet-peeve of mine...
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by scarryy
Rob,
how would stg II work with the stock exhaust? I want to go with this but can't do an exhaust anytime soon.
Also, what is the difference with the ACN maps, are they for elevation or just for crappy gas? I am in Colorado ~5300 feet.

+1 at the most all I want to do to my exhaust is a test pipe. I would like the added boost of the stage 2 map but with a mostly stock exhaust and panel filter.
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob@cobbtuning
I'm pretty sure the code is being set do to the added, and unexpected, exhaust efficiency from the cat-back.

Thanks,
I just hope it is nothing... It's snowing over here so I've been driving on Econo map taking it easy... but once it warms up i will try it again I hope I don't throw anymore codes....
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Japistani
Does this mean that the ECU would learn that the exhaust is all of the sudden more efficient, and therefore, once you clear this type of code, you wouldn't see it again? CEL's are a huge pet-peeve of mine...
No that would not 100% be the case. If the same conditions exists again, the same thing will most likely happen again.
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by scottatyamaha
+1 at the most all I want to do to my exhaust is a test pipe. I would like the added boost of the stage 2 map but with a mostly stock exhaust and panel filter.
Once again I can I get a good write up or copy of the PDF of the requirement for the STG II ???

If you remove the pill how will that react if I started to use other maps like back to Stage1 or econo??? Will there be a messed up reading??? I find it difficult if everytime you want to put it into Econo or other stage mode you would have to insert the pill on and off again...
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by scarryy
Rob,
how would stg II work with the stock exhaust? I want to go with this but can't do an exhaust anytime soon.
Also, what is the difference with the ACN maps, are they for elevation or just for crappy gas? I am in Colorado ~5300 feet.
No sir, please use the Stage I. Keep in mind it's not just the tune adding the power. When a good TBE is added, the motor does not need to work as hard to expel the gases, therefor freeing up that power for use by the drivetrain.

ACN stands for "Arizona, California, and Nevada". These states are notorious for having a poor quality of 91 octane. We adjust the tune accordingly for the fuel being used. For Colorado the standard 91 octane tune should work great. The initial tunes were done here in Salt Lake City, ~5300'.

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Rob
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 09:53 AM
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Robb,

Will we have problems if we take out the restrictor pill to run the stage 2 map but then when going to the dealer loading a stock map back on running without the restrictor pill?
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 11:09 AM
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I noticed the Stage II gains on the MR maps are slightly lower than the GSR:

26% HP / 17% TQ vs 28% HP / 19% TQ

Whats the reason behind this?
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by scottatyamaha
+1 at the most all I want to do to my exhaust is a test pipe. I would like the added boost of the stage 2 map but with a mostly stock exhaust and panel filter.
With a replacement of the cat with a test pipe would most likely require a custom tune. The Evo X is very touchy about the tune vs. the modifications.

Something to keep in mind, that extra boost may not give you any power. Tuning is about a balance of parameters that gives the motor what it wants to run most efficiently. As you have most likely seen with the over boost or under boost codes, you cannot just up one parameter without playing with others.

In several cases stock cats can be a bit of a back up, but this does not seem to be the case with the Evo X. It looks to be the cat-back which is the restriction in the exhaust.

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