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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 08:47 PM
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I'm actually thinking of switching to a 2011 Hatch =O

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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 09:13 PM
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one thing the STi is better at is braking... my sisters 08 STi just drops anchor no matter the conditions... it stops way shorter than my evo...
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 09:30 PM
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hey man i had a 06 sti with 68k on it and i had intake and exhaust and put down 330whp and 319wtq and kept it that way for 2-3 years and one day it randomly started smoking and when i tested my compression it was sure enough 4th cylinder and from what my friend have went through also every sti i have ever seen or heard of has a bad 4th cylinder rindland

i bought my 2011 evo after my sti blew up and its pretty much the best choice i could have ever made i love everything about it and now im putting down 453whp 412wtq with full bolt ons and a bbx lite

GO EVO!!
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by warmmilk
one thing the STi is better at is braking... my sisters 08 STi just drops anchor no matter the conditions... it stops way shorter than my evo...
The tires probably have more to do with the braking than anything else. If you had the same tires on the STi and EVO and had empirical evidence tracking the stopping distances, then I might inclined to believe this.

Also, I remember hearing somewhere that EVO brakes are designed to have greater stopping power at higher speeds, and as a result, you'll lose some of your lower-end braking/brake response. That might just be b.s. though.
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 05:38 AM
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As for Braking my 2010 STI would try to pop your eyes out of their sockets until the tires locked on dry payment. The ABS never came on unless the road was wet or snowy. In the EVO hard braking brings on the ABS and it certainly does not feel like it is stopping as hard.

That said, my basic review conclusion is: Get an STI if you want a fun to drive daily commuter and you plan to stay very near stock with the car. Get an EVO if you want a street legal race car or you enjoy moding the car.

Both cars have advantages and downsides and I don't fault anyone for their selection. I personally will never consider another Subaru after the way they treated me, but that is just me.
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 07:02 AM
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As for Braking my 2010 STI would try to pop your eyes out of their sockets until the tires locked on dry payment. The ABS never came on unless the road was wet or snowy. In the EVO hard braking brings on the ABS and it certainly does not feel like it is stopping as hard.

That said, my basic review conclusion is: Get an STI if you want a fun to drive daily commuter and you plan to stay very near stock with the car. Get an EVO if you want a street legal race car or you enjoy moding the car.

Both cars have advantages and downsides and I don't fault anyone for their selection. I personally will never consider another Subaru after the way they treated me, but that is just me.
Mitsubishi is just as bad, haha. Unless you go to South Coast here in California.
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 07:04 AM
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My '08 STi brakes were extremely touchy/responsive, but very noisy. There was a silent recall on the pads a year or so later, and when they replaced mine they weren't near as touchy. They became on par with the Evo. Totally different response out of different pads, so I wouldn't claim that the STi has better brakes. I would blame the stock pads.

As others have said, if you're going to stay stock, or very close to it the STi is fine. But the worry about a cracked ringland and the dealers giving me the 3rd degree over a freaking downpipe... no thanks. I've said it over and over again, the STi is NOT fun to work on.
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 08:53 AM
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Unless you've slammed on the brakes from at least 80 mph in a hatchback sti (not sure if other body style or years brake the same) it's hard to understand what it's like. I'm not talking about the hardware (which is more or less the same as the evo) or noise or drivability... I'm just talking about how it actually stops when you hit the brakes. Like firebolt said, it prolly has a lot to do with abs tuning, and I'm thinking weight distribution has an impact as well. It's really more than just tires

Even track day instructors who track porsches and Ferrari's have been impressed by how the sti stops
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 09:00 AM
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I sure hope Subaru gets their act together and stops softening up their cars in almost all areas, with each new model release.

In a few years they may be our only viable affordable awd performance option, depending on how badly Mitsubishi screws up the hybrid EVO11.
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 09:03 AM
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Do it.

But get an VIII or a IX
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 09:56 AM
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My '11 STi brakes were nothing special. It's highly depended on tire.
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 10:35 AM
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Did you have a sedan or hatchback? Have you tracked it?
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 11:07 AM
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Did you have a sedan or hatchback? Have you tracked it?
'11 Sedan. Yes, and auto-x.

Don't get me wrong. I think the STi brakes were fine. But they performed no worse or better than the Evo brakes.
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by warmmilk
one thing the STi is better at is braking... my sisters 08 STi just drops anchor no matter the conditions... it stops way shorter than my evo...
It stopped short?

That's MY Move!!

(seinfeld reference)

I love my IX but I skipped the WRX when shopping due to these failures I heard about. Get either an IX or an X. Both are better than what Subaru sells.
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by iLuveKetchup
'11 Sedan. Yes, and auto-x.

Don't get me wrong. I think the STi brakes were fine. But they performed no worse or better than the Evo brakes.
i'm thinking its a hatchback thing with where the weight sits in the car... i never drove the sedan so i don't know...
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