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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 07:06 PM
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I read that article last night and I was really suprised at what it said also. All it really does is pose new obstacles for tuners to overcome and like they have in the past they will do it again. Unfortuneatly for those silly car builders theres always more power to extract you just have to know how to do it. Someone will find a way.
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 08:39 PM
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the wet clutch can't be more efficient since it always has some slip because there is fluid between the multiple plates
This is completely incorrect information. A wet clutch is just a multiple-plate clutch that is bathed in fluid. There is no slip when it is fully engaged. The ACD in your Evo has a wet clutch, it can lock up 100%. Almost every motorcycle has a wet clutch, that doesn't mean it slips when engaged. It just makes for better longevity and an easier transition from disengaged to engaged. All of the clutches in an automatic transmission are wet clutches, they do not slip, the only slip is in the torque converter.
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 08:42 PM
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cant believe they are still keeping the same body style!
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Nez136
....anyways i still think you guys that have never driving a quick response paddle shift car are really blowing things out of proportion
+1

Ain't nothing wrong with technology, as long as it's good technology.

Funny thing about the "anti-clutchless" people is that most of them will be quick to bash NASCAR and will preach about how F1 is the best racing evar! (at least in my experience)

How ironic.

I bought my first EVO because I wanted a rally car, or as close to it as possible. WRC uses clutchless. Sounds like Mitsu is going in the right direction for me!

Many of the clutch advocates just want it for the "cool" factor...

(yes, there are exceptions, and YMMV)


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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by brandonbigdog
cant believe they are still keeping the same body style!
They're not. Test mule. Read beginning of thread before opening mouth.


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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Cabo
They're not. Test mule. Read beginning of thread before opening mouth.


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lol
+1
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 09:01 PM
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Sorry but I trust BMW with the technology more than I ever will something made by Mitsubishi. I hope I'm wrong but I just don't see Mitsubishi outdoing the SMG.
Pssh! Whatever. Every single German car manufacturer is taking a beating in QC these days. Too much bleeding edge technology crammed into over-optioned vehicles. This applies to mechanical as well as electrical parts.

For once in a long time we are finally seeing American car quality at a higher level than German car quality. That's scary. I'd trust a Mitsu product over a BMW product if I had to buy a new car today.

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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 09:09 PM
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Call me a dutche bag, the truth of the matter is we have no idea what the crap anything is going to look like, nor do we know what kind of trany options it will have. It looks like a IX to me with wide fenders. Mitsu can say anything they want, post anything they want in some mag, but I would bet my last dollar that the X will only be a shadow of that car. Maybe I am wrong, but we just need to sit back, watch and wait.
..far from a douche bag post...in fact, one of the wiser ones in this thread. Speculation is the enemy for cars like this -- leave that to the magazines. Me? I'm going to enjoy what I see/read and I'll start preaching when Mitsu posts up their press release.


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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Cabo
..far from a douche bag post...in fact, one of the wiser ones in this thread. Speculation is the enemy for cars like this -- leave that to the magazines. Me? I'm going to enjoy what I see/read and I'll start preaching when Mitsu posts up their press release.


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Mitsu's press release is basically what all the car mags and websites have regurgitated. As you can see, they all say the exact same thing.

Design

The team has crafted a form with lines that are purposeful and handsome; a form that symbolizes the New Mitsubishi Motors Design while retaining the spartan performance image that defines the Lancer Evolution series.

Distinguished by its eye-catching oversized grille, the front visage borrows design cues from a jet fighter to hint broadly at the huge quantities of air it draws in and at the car's road-hugging stability. The brand-identifying 3-diamond logo on the leading edge of the engine hood is another distinguishing element of the new-age Evolution design.

The simple and functional layout of the cockpit is put together in a design that encourages the driver to concentrate fully on operating his machine. The design team has spared no effort in developing coloring and lighting that engender a keener competition look to the interior. The black keynote interior color uses silver counterpoints to impart the material look of aluminum and create a more dynamic and athletic looking interior space.

Powertrain

Mitsubishi Concept-X is powered by a 2.0-liter 4-cylinder DOHC MIVEC intercooler-turbocharged engine that delivers instant response at all engine speeds with flat torque that keeps pulling up to the red line. Mitsubishi Concept-X uses a clutchless 6-speed auto-manual transmission that realizes slicker shifting and higher transmission efficiency than a regular manual gearbox. Paddle shifters mounted on the steering column allow the driver to concentrate on his steering better and enable drivers of all abilities to experience the satisfying pleasure of sport driving.

Body and Chassis

The ring-structure frame design realizes a significant increase in body stiffness, while the use of aluminum in the engine hood, trunk lid, fenders, roof and front and rear door panels reduces weight. Reducing weight in the roof and upper parts of the body lowers the center of gravity, while weight reduction in the doors, engine hood, trunk and other peripheral elements reduces the moment of inertia for better steerability. Weight reduction, lowering the center of gravity and reducing the moment of inertia all contribute to better motive performance and better handling.

The suspension features a MacPherson strut at the front and a multi-link arrangement at the rear. Working in concert with Mitsubishi Motors' "Roll Control Suspension" technology, this design delivers very high levels of ride and road holding.

On-board Multi-Media System

The On-Board Multi-Media System complements the interior design in the way it encourages a dialogue between driver and machine. The high-definition LCD monitor provides a real-time display of vehicle and S-AWC operating status while also displaying on-board navigation system maps and DVD audio controls. Rear seat passengers have their own LCD displays at the back of the front seats that allow them to share with the driver driving-related information and to share the fun-to-drive experience.

Super All Wheel Control (S-AWC)

Mitsubishi Concept-X showcases Super All Wheel Control (S-AWC) vehicle dynamics control technology. A further step up the evolutionary ladder of Mitsubishi Motors four-wheel drive traction and handling technology well proven in the Lancer Evolution and other series, S-AWC realizes cutting-edge levels of vehicle dynamics control. Based on Mitsubishi's full-time 4WD system, as used in Lancer Evolution, that is built around ACD*3 and Super AYC*4 component technologies, S-AWC adds Active Brake Control, Active Steering System and Roll Control Suspension technologies to realize a fully integrated system.
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 11:25 PM
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NICE! Kinda has a R34GTR front end look....the way the bumper and headlights look....IMO......good job!!! I would say the X will be drastically different...as in the concept already out....

is that the EVO X in black? heh
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 04:59 AM
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I love your drawing.

If that where on a t-shirt, I'd have to buy it...
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 05:04 AM
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I'm sure there is plenty of power in that motor to be extracted.
I hope this doesn't end up being as complex as a Volvo S60R.

Oh, I can't see how the Evo X will only have 276 bhp when the IX already has 286 bhp, but then again Mitsu screwed the Eclipse like that in 2000.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 05:28 AM
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Hmmm... looks like they replaced it with the Galant Ralliart.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 06:49 AM
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Besides that particular article, everyone else seems to be stating 300+ horsepower so I doubt it will only be 276. Besides, aren't they talking about a new motor and not the existing one?
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 06:55 AM
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I read on another site that their aiming at 320bhp. I think it was on carspyshots.net There's some good pics on there too.
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