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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 02:21 PM
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There's no doubt that the power will be increased.. The only question is the final specs.. I've heard statements that its supposed to be a little over 300.. Others say thats its targeting 320.. Who knows what the final specs will be.. But they need to hurry up and get all the info out that we need to know..
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 02:27 PM
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Current speculation states that the Evo X will have 320hp and 325 torque. S-AWC will easily offset the added weigh, which will be the most advanced AWD system in the world, unless some company comes out with something before this system is debuted. The Evo X will also be considerably wider also for even more grip and better handling. The Evo X will be stiffer than the current Evo too, that will provide even more grip and quicker handling response.

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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 02:31 PM
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i am kind of disappointed for Mitsubishi, well because IMO, they finally got the right look for the Evo which is the IX...from Evo VII to VIII to IX...then suddenly bam! the X came out...anyways im just happy that i have the last Evo with the looks i want.

Most people(that doesnt know the Evo) tells something like "why did you buy a $38,000 car? you will get tired of it someday and you would want to get the latest Evo, its not worth it." and im thinking "nope this is it since the way they did to the X."

But I still dont doubt the X's performance...yet...until i see it in action. but for the looks, "not so much."-Borat
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 02:33 PM
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Yep.. That's all the reson NOT to be disappointed.. The developers KNOW about the EVO legacy.. They're not gonna step in and say, Lets F*@k this thing up and do what we want.. No.. They are making it BETTER... It's funny how everybody acts towards change.. I walk straight ahead.. It seems that some walk sideways in order to keep from moving forward.. In other words, change is good people..
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 02:36 PM
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With the Evolution, they've had 3 different models with every platform.. EVO I, II, III were on one platform.. EVO IV, V, And VI were on another.. EVO VII, VIII, IX were on the last.. It's time for change people.. Everybody said when the 7 came out that they hated it. They all wanted the VI.. But guess what, with the AYC integrated into the transmission that year, it was BETTER than the VI.. And it just keeps getting better..
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Vigo
Also, take into account for the aluminum roof, aluminum trunk, aluminum front and rear fenders, aluminum doors, and more aluminum suspension components and bam you got an Evo X that will be pretty much the same weight as the current Evo.
Well that's just like the new Corvette C6 Z06. Carbon fiber here, carbon fiber there, aluminum chasey, Ti intake valve, Magnesium Exhaust valve, Magnesium suspension part. All of those exotic materials and yet it's only 50 lbs lighter then the C5 not the C5 Z06. But look at it's performance. No one can say that it's slow right?

I think blitzkrieg79 is right. Lets pass judgement when there's more actually testing done.
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonasan50
With the Evolution, they've had 3 different models with every platform.. EVO I, II, III were on one platform.. EVO IV, V, And VI were on another.. EVO VII, VIII, IX were on the last.. It's time for change people.. Everybody said when the 7 came out that they hated it. They all wanted the VI.. But guess what, with the AYC integrated into the transmission that year, it was BETTER than the VI.. And it just keeps getting better..
youre right
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 02:44 PM
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Yes, we just need to wait. I'm done with speculating on the Evo X.
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 03:15 PM
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I guess people here aren't used to reading articles critically. The entire point of my post is to show that the two cars are not tuned identically and SPECIFICALLY that VW makes ABSOLUTELY NO CLAIM that the DSG car is faster because of the transmission. Now why would they not claim that? Hmmm...

It doesn't state what the torque difference is but it CLEARLY states that the difference is DUE to the tuning. If you are saying that the DSG transmission car would be faster than a manual transmission car if they have the same power output, then you are DISAGREEING with VW engineers. Yes it shifts faster, but the car does not go faster. It's as simple as that. FYI when you are talking about a 100-120hp TDI motor (as in the article quoted) that doesn't rev well a 5hp difference is probably at least 10-15 ft lbs of torque.
I read quite well. I just find it funny that you are giving all the credit for it being faster to a more aggressive tune and nothing to the FACT that it shifts considerably quicker than just about any person ever could.

Obviously, if you shift faster you are spending more time accelerating instead of coasting. So, while it might not be the sole reason for it being faster it has to be helping.
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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I kinda like it but the only thing holding me back is the weight. I also would like to see a stripped RS and an optional 6-speed manual for all trims.
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 04:26 PM
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something else DOES need to be said... The X will weigh 200 pounds MORE than the IX, despite the fact that the new engine is over 50 pounds LIGHTER than the 4G63!!!!! Thats over 250 pounds of added weight with this new platform and luxury crap they are putting into it. It will be as much Audi as it will Evo
No one really knows if/how much it will be heavier tha current Evo, besides the new Lancer is 2 inches wider than previous generation so it's basically a bit larger capacitywise so proportionally to it's actual size it hasn't gained all that much considering all new safety measures/requirements had to be placed. Don't blame Mitsu for additional weight, blame the government regulations.

As far as performance of the stock engine is concerned I've read rumors of about 310-320HP and Popular Mechanics even predicted 350hp.

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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 04:29 PM
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The X isnt out yet and it still sucks!!! Just look at it!
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 04:33 PM
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whoppty tooopty can we all just wait im sick of seeing threads like this. LAAAADEEEEEDAAAAAAA!!!!!!
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 04:36 PM
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every1 thought the evo9 might suck...

look at us now =-p 1000$ in mods and im trapping 119..... blow me....

and ur comment that evo's arent being made in japan anymore... who cares where they are made... a factory is a factory lol nothing is done by hand lol

bmws are made everywhere except germany.. they dont suck...


stop all ur stupid speculating... cause its just a guess... and a waste of time

wait for it to come out, be amazing or sucky... then comment
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 05:30 PM
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I'm not disappointed in the X so far. I think it looks much better than the VIII/IX.

I reserve the right to be disappointed in the X after it's released and we know details like price and specs. Until then, disappointment is premature.

Even then, the real test will be 2-3 years after it's released and we see tuning potential realized and the level of aftermarket and consumer support for the new platform.

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