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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 06:07 AM
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everyday i'm wishing i would have gone for an x
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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by GeoffM
everyday i'm wishing i would have gone for an x
Glad im waiting
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 08:45 PM
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I love DSG. I hope to have it in my next car.

There is a rev limiter on manual cars too, so I don't see a difference there since you can't grenade either one. My '06 VW GLI did shift when you got well past redline. I understand that some would prefer that it simply bounced off the limiter rather than upshift. It's a programming choice by the manufacturer. I was happy with the function of my GLI.

Yes, the DSG VW uses is currently using is limited in the amount of torque it can handle, however, the Bugatti Veyron has a different DSG, and puts out over 1000hp and 922lb/ft, so obviously, DSG can be built for whatever power the car will have, and need not be a weak link.

Those of you with "lag" concerns really baffle me. It shifts faster than you can. Yes, the shift can take time depending on the situation, but if you were going to do a rev-matched shift, there's no way you'd do it any faster, or better than a DSG can.
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 07:59 AM
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Evo X tranny ???

so one of the most talked about things about the new evo X is what transmission it will have. i've done a few searches and found some info. i also talked to a sales man ( fellow evo owner) for mitsu and asked about the tranny and he had some interesting info. i asked him if he knew if it was going to have the DSG/ SMG transmission (dsg has been used by vw for awhile now and i believe bmw uses the smg) and he said the evo X will be offered with a standard 5 speed manual and paddle shifters. so it wont be AUTOMATIC ! that's nonsense. i can't wait for the X's to come out. DAMN! DAMN! DAMN!
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 08:17 AM
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According to Motor Trend Radio on sunday, they said it was going to be a DSG. I don't know how truly knowledgable the two guys talking were of the car. But one guy had written the MT article. But the guy that said it would be a DSG was not the guy that wrote the article. But the writer never corrected him or confirmed him either.
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 08:19 AM
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According to Motor Trend Radio on sunday, they said it was going to be a DSG.
From everything I have seen or read it will come with a 5 speed manual as well.
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 01:30 PM
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The auto clutch on the X doesn't allow you to reach redline and limits the RPM's of your downshifts....not to mention the open deck aluminum. Evo IX ftw.
Good so no more tranny abuse.. that is a good thing.
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Falcon
The auto clutch on the X doesn't allow you to reach redline and limits the RPM's of your downshifts....not to mention the open deck aluminum. Evo IX ftw.
And how did you find this out? I haven't read any test drives of the new EVO X yet.....
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 03:57 PM
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Good so no more tranny abuse.. that is a good thing.
+1 ^^ That's one good point. Anything that prevents accidental abuse of the transmission or over-revving the engine is a good thing. I don't get why so manyy ppl think it's better to have an antiquated, risky mechanism when there is a better, safer alternative . Also, I don't think that is going to purposely release a weak motor in their flagship car.... I thought the new EVO was going to have even more power than the present one. Why would they take a chance like increasing the power in a weaker engine instead of using the old engine? I'm confused by the EVO X haters rationale. It seems that they think that is going to release an inferior product so they can fail in a market of very stiff competition... I do not read signals in that direction from what articles I've read. Most articles extol the virtues of the new car emphasizing it's superior handling, power and style over the previous models......
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 06:08 PM
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I'm all fo rhte debates about the tranny(s) (which is pretty damn important) but I'm more interested in the exact turbo specs of this new turbo. Any rumors?
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 06:26 PM
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The only (bad) thing I have heard about the turbo is that both Motor Trend and Sport Compact Car have reported it to be an IHI unit.
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 12:03 AM
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^ thats bad
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 01:19 PM
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from looking at the interior pictures of the non-5-speed model, I see a P, R, N and D next to the shifter. it's an Automatic.

I dont think P would be there if it was SMG.
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 03:23 PM
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 03:47 PM
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Well, Motor Trend had the concept car, so they should have a decent idea of what's going on.

Supposedly, it will debut with the DSG tranny, and the 5-speed manual will become available later on.
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