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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 08:13 PM
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WRX and STi have the Turbo in the rear. It's not a problem for us.

Originally Posted by Markley02
I don't like the idea of the turbo behind the motor. Look at the 3KGT vr-4 as an example. It is not uncommon for the rear turbo to glow in that car while the front is fine. A turbo timer is going to be a must for the X.
And a turbo timer has nothing to do with placement of the turbo. It has to do with if the turbo is ONLY oil-cooled, or oil and coolant-cooled like all modern Mitsu and IHI turbos which do not require a TT.

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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by beastlytalon
the same exact thing happened with the IX. most of us wouldn't have bothered at first but we learned and now most would trade our VIII's for the IX. i think the X will grow on us as well.

by the way, i went the NAIAS and wasn't allowed up there. jerk! also in my pics the X was dirty, there were scuff marks on the doors etc. they didn't even display it like it was something special. i also agree with the comment that the lancer and evo are closer alike than ever. i was really disappointed with mistu's displays or lack there of.
You weren't nice enough
My first trial was not successul neither (I went during the pre production day, the first time)

The saleman I talk to was very nice and a fan of the EVO it may have helped

The X will be a good car, I'm sure of that and Mitsu eng. know they have to keep the evo potential alive if they want to sell their cars. The X will be better than the IX

hmmmm, Small reflection. When the 7 was released (in UK and Japan) the 6 was still on sale because of the gap between the two. The 6 remains the beast as far as I know...

+ for the short story, in Europe we're calling the evos 7 and more the anvils, the 6 and less the antiquities
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by sonicnofadz
Ummm comparing the 4G63 with Mivec to a non Mivec 4G63 is pretty retarded. They are still the same engine except one has variable valve timing. There is no reason to believe there would be no support for the Mivec since variable valve timing effects only one small part of the engine, the rest of the engine is exactly the same.
Right, now that the car is here and its been out for a while and the support for it is there - you can say that. But before the IX came out, the naysayers said nay, that MIVEC would ruin it and that there would be no support.

You sound just like they did so many months ago slamming the X. "Pretty retarded."

And the rest of the engine *is not* exactly the same. The IX has improved cooling passages in the head.

I pretty mcuh figured you switch to "oh its all in good fun". And "I really hope the X is awsome" eventually. No need to backtrack now.

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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 10:04 PM
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What alot of people fail to realize about the DSG, is by reliquishing control over the clutch, you are no longer able to control the car like you did before. There will be many problems with rev matching and launching, unlike a regular manual clutch operated car. Perhaps you don't know how to drive a manual car to begin with so you rather not deal with a clutch? The DSG will result in faster shifts with the sacrifice of being able to precisely control the car.
You haven't got a clue . Do yourself a favor and test drive an Audi A3 with DSG. Then come back and tell me about all the control problems you'll experience launching... The DSG is absolutely brilliant. It shifts faster and more accurately than any straight drive tranny. In auto mode it's totally foolproof. With the paddle shifters it's practically impossible to miss a shift. All you gotta do is hold the pedal down and click the paddle at redline. I cannot wait for the DSG in the EVO. It will be it's best improvement unless the tranny is poorly designed or executed. There is no doubt about it, the DSG is far superior to the straight shift in accuracy and safety. It's much easier to use and far more easy to control.
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 10:51 PM
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looks pretty good under the hood, but like someone said, 4g FTW
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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 08:59 PM
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GPTourer,

If you consider pointing out inconsistencies, possible inaccuracies, and offering a counterpoint to be calling someone out, then I suppose that is what I was doing. Although, I usually think of that as debating. Both of which still fall short of flaming someone. Given the inability to truly express inflection in a textual format, the tone given to a post is left to one's interpretation, which is not necessarily the one intended by the author.

Do you not see my interpretation of the photos to be another possible explanation of the little we can see and what Mitsu has released in their press releases?
Nope. You didn't call him out there but you did with this....

"Everyone seems to be looking for something to post about in this forum without having anything new to really discuss."
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Old Feb 16, 2007 | 01:19 AM
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$60k for the evo X is pretty steep for me. thats europe for ya
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Old Feb 16, 2007 | 01:36 AM
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DSG looks very impressive but in my opinion, there's nothing more exciting than the experience you get from driving a "pure" manual car, no matter how much quicker the advantage with DSG gives me over manual.
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Old Feb 16, 2007 | 11:00 AM
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FYI - Just spoke with the owner of 3 mitsu dealers in So Cal , new evo X will go for low 40's ... going for the m3 and corvette crowd on the new car.
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Old Feb 16, 2007 | 11:34 AM
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Automobile Magazine with Evo X Preview.

Interesting read in the March issue of Automobile Magazine. They are previewing the EVO X, and the comparison car that they are using is the M3. They are liking the step up in class of the car's interior. They also estimate that the weight will be at least 200 lbs heavier than the Evo IX. A comment that kind of disturbed me was when they alluded to the fact that the Price will most likely take a good jump up (which is consistent with other articles we've seen), and that it will likely not be as fast as the current Evos. Granted, who knows what these guys know about the car that we are going to see on our shores here, so we'll have to just wait and see.

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Old Feb 16, 2007 | 11:36 AM
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FYI - Just spoke with the owner of 3 mitsu dealers in So Cal , new evo X will go for low 40's ... going for the m3 and corvette crowd on the new car.
I'm raising the BS flag on this one. Mitsubishi will not push it's own car out of the market it's made to sell to.

And besides that, this guy "owner" is talking out of his *** because the car hasn't been finalized and neither has pricing.
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Old Feb 16, 2007 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by MFactor
Nope. You didn't call him out there but you did with this....

"Everyone seems to be looking for something to post about in this forum without having anything new to really discuss."
Exactly. Its okay to think differently, but you (articfury) used your assumptions to determine that this discussion wasn't worth talking about because it isn't "anything new."

You had some good points to add, but your approach and presentation made it a "calling out" IMO.
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Old Feb 16, 2007 | 12:34 PM
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yepp I saw the same article, seems as though we are headed more to toward luxury than "rally inspired". Not sure I like this idea...
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Old Feb 16, 2007 | 01:12 PM
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yepp I saw the same article, seems as though we are headed more to toward luxury than "rally inspired". Not sure I like this idea...
the exterior design suggests more rally car, but when you look at the interior and inside its completely different...

im hoping that when they introduced the lancer ralliart that it will be close to 20k

as it will AWD, Turbo on a low PSI

but anyways i dunno i liked the EVO IX interior even though ppl said it looked cheap
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Old Feb 16, 2007 | 03:31 PM
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The auto clutch on the X doesn't allow you to reach redline and limits the RPM's of your downshifts....not to mention the open deck aluminum. Evo IX ftw.
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