Nor will there be years after the car is out (compared to the extensive aftermarket for the 4G63)...dork...

 

You mean kinda like the SRT-4 and STi don't have any mods on their relatively new engines?

 

cool

 

Yep, kind of like that, except worse because the SRT4 and Subby engines are basically the same as previous years, however this new platform is brand spanking new, and will have absolutely no support. Aftermarket manufacturers will primarily focus on the 8-9 platforms because thats where most of the market will be at (proven 4G63 performance).

 

Which previous years is the SRT4 engine basically the same as?
Which previous years is the STi engine basically the same as?

Let's say your car is capable of running a 12.0 1/4mile (and I think I'm being very generous) there are plenty of STi's and SRT-4's running in the 11s so there should be plenty of support for you.

 

Bah, looks like the new STi hatch will be the car of choice for the next generation. Unless that 5% difference in the production model will get rid of the clunkyness. It looks too much like they were going for a muscle car look like the Mustang or new Camaro.

I hope I am wrong about it when it comes out. I really want to like it.

 

You don't think there will be any incentive/rush/desire for tuners to develop parts for the 4B11 as quickly as possible?

You don't think Mitsubishi has released mules/prototypes/engines/preproduction units to big name tuners already?

This is the first time the Lancer and Evo will share the same basic engine. IT will make the tuners job that much easier and more lucrative to jump in as quickly as possible as the first model year there will be plenty of 4b11's on the road.

All the naysayers said the IX would get little support because of MIVEC. Hell, I remember when people said the IX would suck BECAUSE of MIVEC, as they figured it was just something tacked on as an excuse for mitsu to call it a IX. Now its great.

Were you one of those people too?

 

How many of us here prefer to crank the engine over to start it rather than turn the ignition key? Ignition keys are for sissies.

I'd love a DSG box on my current VIII - the tranny is the one weak spot on my car, with syncro grind in the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts. On top of that, C&D tested a DSG versus a manual shift car and the DSG performed the shift quicker, which translated to better performance numbers each time. I'll take the faster, easier method, as long as it proves reliable.

 

What alot of people fail to realize about the DSG, is by reliquishing control over the clutch, you are no longer able to control the car like you did before. There will be many problems with rev matching and launching, unlike a regular manual clutch operated car. Perhaps you don't know how to drive a manual car to begin with so you rather not deal with a clutch? The DSG will result in faster shifts with the sacrifice of being able to precisely control the car.

 

Ummm comparing the 4G63 with Mivec to a non Mivec 4G63 is pretty retarded. They are still the same engine except one has variable valve timing. There is no reason to believe there would be no support for the Mivec since variable valve timing effects only one small part of the engine, the rest of the engine is exactly the same.

 

BTW people, I sincerely hope that the X will be awesome. I hope they take their protype and totally revise everything to prove me dead wrong. I am only here to argue because I think its fun. I do realize that what I we are arguing over is almost pointless because the design may change at any time. Don't take things personally, its an internet forum. =)

 

How'd you guess? Yep, I've struggled with it for 26 yrs and 10 different manually-transmissioned cars and phooey, I just can't handle it. It was so bad, that the owner of the car we competed in for 2005 One Lap of America put me behind the wheel for the dragstrip competition. You're right, clutches are yucky.

 

How do you know nobody will support this new engine in the future? Do have a magic crystal ball that let's you see into the future? Do you have brain damage, or some type of mental disorder that gives you delusions of fortune telling? Please enlighten us Nostradamus.

When the 4G63 first came out it was also unproven and nobody supported in the beginning, but look what happened. As time went on, it got better. As the motor and tuning industry evolved together the 4G63 got stronger and the aftermarket developed parts for it to extract more power.

When the first Evo came out, it was brand spanking new too. Dumbass.As the series of Evolutions came out, new chassis's were introduced. Each new chassis kept on getting better, stiffer and yes heavier, but they also got faster. There has been a total four different chassis's.

Only time will tell until we know what are the true capabilities of the new motor, body, and drivetrain will be. We know nothing and you know even less than that.

 

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