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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 11:17 AM
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I don't think it's a X.

1. You said you took the pics last Friday June 1, 2007 right? Mitsu has announce what the X would look like months ago so why disguise it? Also when the car are disguise, they usually only have the front bra or other body parts covered up. They only look like this when it's a concept car. But Mitsu stop the Concept X thingy for awhile already.

2. Why did they need to upgrade the rims?

To me, I think it's just a regular 8 that wants to be a X. He could had just converted to RHD and put in the dash of the newer lancer.
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 11:17 AM
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hmmm this mean the 4G63 might fit in the evo X wonder which tuner will be the first to drop one in i have bets on Top Secret
It will happen, I'm sure of it, though it'll be more than just a 'drop-in.' But the message it sends is a little mixed. Yeah, you put a great engine in the new car.. But isn't it also like saying "We're stuck in a rut and can't be bothered with figuring out this new engine."?

Dunno, that's how I'd see it. The new technology is here to stay, Mitsu isn't going to go "oops, here's the 4G63 back." So we need to look forward. If you're always looking at what's behind you, you won't see the trees ahead of you.

To be honest, if a tuner's great claim to fame with the X is based around a 4G63 swap, I certainly wouldn't take my business there. Innovation and evolution go hand-in-hand. WIthout innovation, there can be no evolution, and a tuner like that would be, to my eyes, a "genetic dead end." I'd rather spend my money with a company that's out there trying new things and pushing the limits of new technology.

For a community based around a car called the *EVOLUTION* I'm surprised how much resistance there is to change. Especially since the X will most likely be the best handling USDM Evo, period.
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by tvbf1
I don't think it's a X.

1. You said you took the pics last Friday June 1, 2007 right? Mitsu has announce what the X would look like months ago so why disguise it? Also when the car are disguise, they usually only have the front bra or other body parts covered up. They only look like this when it's a concept car. But Mitsu stop the Concept X thingy for awhile already.

2. Why did they need to upgrade the rims?

To me, I think it's just a regular 8 that wants to be a X. He could had just converted to RHD and put in the dash of the newer lancer.
please read the whole thread we think this is a test mule for the powertrain for the X not the car it self
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 11:27 AM
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I don't think it's a X.
In body, no. But the drivetrain and interior is. Look at the hood, then take a look at the underhood pictures of the Prototype X and the front-on pictures of the Evo X. Those bulges are clearly for the X's more direct intercooler piping.

1. You said you took the pics last Friday June 1, 2007 right? Mitsu has announce what the X would look like months ago so why disguise it? Also when the car are disguise, they usually only have the front bra or other body parts covered up. They only look like this when it's a concept car. But Mitsu stop the Concept X thingy for awhile already.
This is a "Mule" or a car that has features of a to-be-released model in the body of an older model. No bra is needed since the styling is of the 9. Also, if you look further on in the thread, there are pictures of an identical mule on the Nuremburgring. Threre's no need for a full-bodied X since the current mule has all the features they need to test and is already built.

2. Why did they need to upgrade the rims?
It has been stated that the X has a wider track and wider tires (245s on 18s vs 235s on 17s I believe) they would need rims for the new tires. And possibly they needed a different offset to fit the new tires *and* new suspension under the old fenders.

To me, I think it's just a regular 8 that wants to be a X. He could had just converted to RHD and put in the dash of the newer lancer.
I think you may have missed the pictures of the mule on the Nuremburgring.
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 11:27 AM
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I would have carjacked the guy to find out for sure what it was
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by TalonTuner4G63
you are alot more ignorent than you seem.


^ That' s perhaps the funniest thing I have seen on Evom in a while.

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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by psycho 4 life
please read the whole thread we think this is a test mule for the powertrain for the X not the car it self
Originally Posted by Draco-REX
In body, no. But the drivetrain and interior is. Look at the hood, then take a look at the underhood pictures of the Prototype X and the front-on pictures of the Evo X. Those bulges are clearly for the X's more direct intercooler piping.
Oh WOW

After seeing the pics of the test mule at the nurburgring, I'm totally convinced that it's the test bed for the new X. I'm sorry guys

By the way, I read in one of the car magazine that the new X will have a cast iron block but only in the RS model.
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 11:54 AM
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By the way, I read in one of the car magazine that the new X will have a cast iron block but only in the RS model.
I would say that's not likley. I'm pretty sure even the lowest end Lancer still has the Aluminum block. It's kind of pointless to make a "global engine platform" and then make naother version for just one model.

Really, I think the car magazines out there are speculating just as much as we are, but the info you read in them is already going to be a month or so old.

It sucks having to wait so long to get our hands on an X, but I'm sure it'll be worth it. At least we have to only wait until Sept. or Oct. for the official unveiling and technical stats.
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 12:06 PM
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Maybe its just me, but it sure as hell just looks like a flat black, riced out, ruined EDM Evo VIII... durrrr
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 12:12 PM
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good work gumshoe! lol
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 12:25 PM
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those are no michigan manufacturer's plates. mitsu testing facility is some where in ann arbor michigan. its definatley a test car. when they are done with these cars, they crush them
it is definitely a test mule, but those are cali plates. some cali manufacturer plates have blue and gold similar to Cal Berkeley colors.

in ann arbor mitsu has the emissions testing facility where i have seen a few mules running around. the EPA emissions headquarters is in ann arbor so every new us market vehicle has to come here for final emissions testing and certification. we see a lot of cars with camo around this area

i met a guy driving an apex silver X with evo VIII body panels around here (4300 Varsity Dr # E, Ann Arbor, MI 48108). you might have seen this same mule desert testing, with some frankenstein looking quarter panels. it was RHD, and pretty much gutted, but he told me he was testing the transmission. i was able to pull up right next to him and talk to him face to face at a traffic light. it sounded like a beast (with its dual pea shooter exhaust)!!!!

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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 06:04 PM
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Interesting analysis of the Evolution X

Hey guys,

Check out this link: http://sean-the-man.blogspot.com/200...fications.html

The author pretty much summarizes all the know facts about the new Lancer/Evo X and speculates a bit about potential performance.
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 06:37 PM
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He makes some good points, and I like some of the ideas he has. I hope some of them pan out. Though I'm not sold on the 8K redline. High revs get you good HP numbers, but it's torque that really counts. It sounds like the 4B11 will take to stroking well. Hopefully we'll get the best of both worlds once the Tuners get a hold of the engine; torque from displacement and a high redline.

With the rigidity of the new body, the S-AWC, and if he's right about the brakes, the X sounds like it'll be tearing chunks out of the corners of the test tracks.

Much as I like Subaru, the more I hear about the Evo X, the more I think the STI won't have a chance (stock for stock). I hope I'm wrong; I hope Subaru surprises us. Subaru needs some muscle and agility under that bulbous body, and Mitsu can't be alowed to get complacent.
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 08:10 PM
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high rev + turbo? Its like a dream come true if its true!
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 12:44 PM
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I own a highly moded Protege MP3 that has an 83 bore and 92 stroke. The #1 problem with these motors is that they're undersquare. I'm a fan of anything but undersquare motors.
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