Hmmm, I didn't think about that. I figured the mule had the new engine under the hood too. But if it didn't I would think the engine was flipped around and the bellhousing modified and... well, and that it would be too expensive for the average tuner to duplicate.

 

no it was the 4g63 they never flipped the motor, due to torque steer. thats why after the evo3 all the other evo's motors where on the opposite side. So i think it will be on the same side as the 8,& 9. I wish they put cast iron sleeves in this new motor, then it would be light and strong... but then again the SR20 is all aluminum and it hold gobbs of power just dont ever let it run hot.

 

I understand why it was done on older Evos, but since this was a test mule, maybe that wasn't the biggest concern since they were testing it in the snow. I really think there will have to be one more flip because of the direction 4G63s spin, I thought Evos had one extra kink in the drivetrain path because of this. Just like K series spin oppositely from B series.

 

oh ok i thought by flip you ment this way <> not up and down, thats right i did hear that they could flip it to were the turbo was next to the fire wall. It doesnt make sense except it keeps us from modding as much. As for the B series they rotate opposite of many other motors, 4g63, sr20det,k20's that why the honda are in there like that.

 

a killer instinct reference?? hehe. loved that game.

back on topic, i am glad to see it go and sad at the same time. i cant wait to see what they come up with to replace an engine that has gathered such acclaim. it has a heck of a line of racing/etc to live up to. that is kinda like being jordan's kid and playing basketball. if he sucks, then folks wonder what is wrong... if he is great, then folks say that the kid is supposed to be that good.

ROCK--4B11T---HARD PLACE.

 

Err right, I think we are on the same page, but I am still confused.

I thought Bseries and 4G63 did spin the same way, but that Honda chose to engineer their transmissions differently and Mitsu added another half shaft on the Evo IV+. I think thats why old style 4G63 (DSM, Evo I-III) swap is a viable option on Civics and I have seen it done a coupe of times (although anythig, it seems, can and has been swapped into a Civic).

 

We have a fully built honda b series on our dyno right now when you look at the timing gears and how they spin they spin counter clock wise, a 4g63 and everything else spin clock wise. it may have been the older 4g63.

 

all (most) honda engines spins counter clock wise up till the K-series where they switch to clock wise because they wanted to make their engines more compatible with other manufactures incase they wanted to use the honda engines.

 

i don't know what everyone else is crying about aluminum block on the first few pages that the new Evo will have but as far as I know, the lambos and ferraris use cast aluminum block and heads. That says something right there that Mitsu is going in the right direction.

<---- waiting for the Evo X patiently. LoL

 

the new engine will be great

 

ok guys check this out
this is the current picture of the engine of EVO X

flipped the motor or not ?
2.3 L ?

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...otoId=20110097

 

I understand what you are saying, but Ferraris and Lambos also cost a little more too. The reason, I think, Mitsu has been able to get by with an iron block 4cyl for so long is that it is just a 2.0L 4cyl, it doesn't weigh that much. They could always overcome it with horsepower and the fact that the rest of the car didn't weigh that much. When you are building a Ferrari or Lamborghini a 2.0L 4cylinder just won't do. Its got to be a 3.5-6.0L+ V8, V10, or V12. If you build an enigne like that out of iron, its going to be much much heavier then a 4cyl so it becomes much more critical to lighten the rest of the car, or much more of a weight savings to use aluminum. Most of those cars are N/A too.

Safety regs have forced Evos to get heavier and heaiver to the point where using a aluminum block is required for them to make the car overcome it. Now they are tilting it back towards the center of the car and hanging the turbo in the back for better weight distribution. I am sure they are using more aluminum now more then ever, and with more power I am confident they will be able to improve the car over the IX as they promised.

 

the new engine is a good thing. the 4g63 has been around forever, there have been a lot of technological advances since the 4g63 was originally created. this is like when honda got rid of the B series engines for the K series. all the honda heads out there know the potential for the K series blows away anything the B series could offer.

 

How many Lambos or Ferraris have you seen that are turbocharged?

The last Ferrari I drove was a 355, and the build quality was about the same as a Mitsubishi...

 

Another question about the Evo X is the pricing. There are rumors floating around about the price being around $35,000 for the base model. That's quite a hike from the base model being around $28,000 for the current Evo IX base model. ...could be the hype I guess.

Another thing about the new Evo is the looks. As the previous Evo's have visually stood out from the other "cars" the new Evo blends in more and isn't as noticeable. This is good for avoiding cops but I'll miss the "difference" that set the Evo apart.