Then that's what they are doing right now. You said crate motors in your first post - that means turn key long block complete engine. A shortblock is just that, the bottom end of the motor without the head and accessories. You can buy a basic short block for the Evo or the DSM from Mitsu right now. Expect to pay $2500-$3500.

Actually I was just teasing about Ralliart. My point was that buying a built racing engine from Mitsu would be well more then most of us would rather spend, it would most likely exceed the cost of a new Evo. But between Cosworth, RRE, Magnus, Buschur or FFWD I'm sure you could come up with just as gnarly an engine by sending a basic Mitsubishi bare block, bare head, and crank to any combination of those companies and having it built just the way you want it with the sky and your bankroll being the limit.

 

I'm thinking crate = short block = what you see similar at Discount Auto or from a catalogue from Dodge, GM, or Ford, basic motor w/o assessory or electronic stuff. When people start tacking on electronic stuff, it will balloon.

 

This is what I mean by crate engine:

http://www.gmgoodwrench.com/GMPerfor...s/showcase.jsp
http://www.mopar.com/muscle/whatshot1005.htm
http://www.fordracingparts.com/crateengine/main.asp

When speaking of domestics, who basically coined the term "crate engine" it implies a complete performance built longblock, and not just a stock short block which you can get from Mitsu. The only import brand I know that does this is Nissan and they are sublet out through Tomei for the Skyline.

 

Yeah that's why the best race cars in the world use paddle shifters...F1...WRC...because they want "worse" shifting in those cars...

 

How could not needing to take your hand's off the steering wheel be a bad thing? I don't get it?

Anyways. I'm confident the X will be a sweet car... but if I get one, I think I'll wait for a year or two after the first model comes out for them to work out the kinks. 2005 VIII's ended up having LSD and ACD etc... I bet 2008 or 2009 X's will be sweet! Or maybe I can wait till 2010, when my VIII is all paid off, then trade it in for a X.5 or XI . I'm sure the XI and possibly XII will be based of the same platform/engine. (If Mitsubishi doesn't take a nose dive by then).

 

Its about time now parts for the 4g63 are going to go down.

 

I think the new Evo will be hot with lots of potential.

 

Much ado about nothing, IMO.

 

hmmm

 

don't know if this is true ???

In a shock announcement, Mitsubishi Motors Japan released the concept
and specs of the new Evolution X. The surprise occurred due to the
fact that the current model (IX) has only just started production in
the past few weeks. The most perplexing notion is the release date of
the new Evo.

"We are so excited about this new car," announced Yushimo Katisho the
market manager for Ralliart. "We couldn't keep it under wraps. It will
be a huge leader in the market and should prove to be dominant in the
WRC stage. This is one of the main reasons why the car is released
now, so we can get the rally side working again."

"The reality of it," Katisho continued. "Is that we have two teams
running development work on the evolution range. The team on the IX
really were just creating a face-lift of the VIII while our top
engineers have been working tirelessly on the new X."

So what is so good about the new Evo. For starters the platform is
completely new, based somewhere between the CE lancer, Cedia design
and the new CZ Tarmac. It promises to be smaller and lighter than the
current IX allowing for gains to be made in ridgity and cornering.

The engine powerhouse is the first step away from the conventional
4G63 long motor design that served for so long. Keeping the short
motor design and platform Ralliart have gone into development with HKS
and Greddy to create an amazing twin turbo system that will rock the
turbo charged world's foundations.

"With this new setup we are able to create peak torque at 2200rpm and
hold that torque to 6900rpm and therefore extend that rally sweet
spot. The most amazing development is the end of twin turbo gap and
lag. This is like driving with a monster single turbo with low down
mombo."

The 4G63 is boosted now with full and complete Mivec and extra
capacity going to 2.5 litres which promises to deliver copious amounts
of power all the way to the new 8700rpm redline. This being the need
created for the new turbo system.

The drive line moves back to the proven 5 speed system for strength to
cope with the new found power. The ACD gets more looks at with an
extra mode - AutoX - for those tighter and twistier situations. The
SAYC is further improved to carry 50% more torque from wheel to wheel
and for the first time it is introduced on the front end of the car.

The brakes also get their first upgrade in years. Brembo is left
behind and ALCON come to the party. The front brakes now support 6 pot
caliper strength while the rears support 4 pot stopping power. The
rotors are not left behind with ALCON curve slots as standard.

The car will be availble to the press in the next two weeks with sales
expected to start in Japan around mid year.

SPEC BOX
2007 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X
Engine
Engine Code: 4G63 MIVEC
Type: Inline four, iron block, aluminum head, turbocharged and
intercooled
Valvetrain: DOHC, four valves per cylinder
Displacement: 2498cc
Bore x Stroke: 85.0mm x 88.0mm
Compression Ratio: 8.8:1
Claimed Crank Hp: 360 hp @ 7500 rpm
Claimed Crank Torque: 345 hp @ 2800 rpm
Redline: 8700 rpm
Drivetrain
Layout: Transverse front engine, all-wheel drive
Transmission: Five-speed manual
Gear Ratios

Differentials: SAYC (F), active electrohydraulically controlled clutch
type (C), SAYC(R)
Exterior Dimensions
Brakes
Front: 13.65-in. vented discs, six-piston Alcon calipers
Rear: 13.0-in. vented discs, four-piston Alcon calipers, Electronic
Driving Aids/Inhibitors: ACD, ABS, EBD
Wheels and Tires
Wheels: 18x8.5-in. OZ Racing

 

I was told that it will be the 4B11 engine on May 17, 2006 meaning my sources are legit .

 

Mid year in Japan, probably means sometime at the end of 2007 for the US market. I cant wait for a US press release with more details.

 

Nice little spec sheet, but I wonder what kind of price tag that will carry.

 

I'm not that worried about the engine being aluminum but more worried about the total weight of the car since the interior will improve and with SAYC which is more weight. Hopefully, at least the car will be more balance from the front/rear weight biased.

If it's same weight with 360hp it is all good for me I just hope stick some variable turbos tech with this evo.

 

i thought the weight of the new evo is going to be 3000 lb or less
cause it suppose to be lighter and 6inch shorter, a little bit wider