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It's Official: 2006 Last 4G63, New Evo X Engine: 4B11T

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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Fireball
Go check out a Evo SE brochure at your local dealership. It says at the end of the paragraph on the left side:

"Now, as the idol and its believers race into a 10th generation, a new SE Package for the Lancer Evolution IX celebrates every clipped apex, every grazed redline, every hoisted trophy. The final 4G63 takes a victory lap."

Then look over at the far right side, there's a small picture of the Evo X concept. In a more faint and easily overlooked font color, it says 4B11.

Googling "Mitsubishi 4B11", you get to this page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_GEMA_engines

Scroll down to the 4B11 and you'll find the 4B11T which they claim on the 2008 Evo X. The fact that it's in a Mitsubishi brochure now, confirms it.

Not sure how I feel right now. Worried, maybe.
Nothing new, some of us members have know about the "4B11" for months now, actually knew about spring of this year, and it's well documented through-out the forums, just do a search,
Originally Posted by dbdude
The 8 is a legend already. Its the next supra.
A legend? Uh... kind pushing it there. It is great car, but not legend status yet. Far as the next supra? Hardly. Actually, I highly doubt it. It's gonna take the evo MORE time to become the status of the supra.
Originally Posted by boostinjuice
The switching to a different motor is defintily not a good thing. Like said before, I believe that its going to be the same situation as the 2nd gen eclipse to the 3rd gen eclipse. The second gen turbo eclipse was the **** car to have. 4g63 turbo! Then ****ing it up with the 3rd gen eclipse. Now, the evo is the new car to have. 4g63 turbo! Repalcing the engine good be bad news. History tends to repeat itself. Buy your evo 8 or 9 4g63 while they last, becuase its very hard right now to find a good 2nd gen eclipse turbo. Soon, the 4g63 turbo evo will be lost.
What?

So you know something MMC, Dr. Evo and his team of engineers don't know? By all means, fill us in! Also stop comparing the 4G63 of the 2nd gen eclipse to the 6G72 of the 3rd gen eclipse, as said before, you can blame MMNA for that descion to drop the 4G63 and stuff a v6 in there. Like said before, MMC just did not have a meeting one day and say "Hey! Lets get rid of the 4G63", there are alot of reason behind it's dismissal.
Originally Posted by beast21
the evo x will still have a 4g63 made of iron, but with a more responsive engine than a IX and will have around 380hp and a sh-awd system

it will most likely come out at around the time when the r35 gtr skyline comes out
found this out from mitisubishi service


WTF? Have you not read the thread? There will be no 4G63 in the Evo X, who told you otherwise? @ 380hp, now you have flew the cucoo nest kid and sh-awd? It will have the honda awd system found on the Acura RL and Acura MDX? . Ok, this has to be a joke... seriously, this is the worst car news concerning the Evo X that I have ever heard.
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 09:09 AM
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I am saddened by the death of the 4g63, and probably won't buy an evo X, but I think my decision will be more of a financial one, as I have heard that the X will push 40k. it's happening all over again just like in the late 90's with the death of the supra/rx7/300z. nissan has a skyline coming over and rumors are low 40's... but that should help keep up the value on my 9

as far as aftermarket parts go, I thought I remembered reading that the X wil be released in japan before it hits the states. Mitsu know the tuner community, and I would bet that a few pre-release cars will make it into the hands of some of the tuner shops in japan prior to release to speed up the jdm market, which should help the us market see parts fairly quickly. might not be full stroked motor kits right away, but potentially bolt-ons, although that direct injection is supposed to not be so mod-friendly(remember reading that on the mazdaspeed6)
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 09:12 AM
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is there any other car beside the old eclipses and the evos with a 4g63?
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by sandm
nissan has a skyline coming over and rumors are low 40's...
are u kidding me? my buddy works at nissan north america. the next GT-R is gonna be in the neighborhood of $65-70k, and it will be sold as a nissan not an infiniti. they benchmarked it with the newest 911 turbo. so it should be mighty fast.

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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by boondoc
I've been viewin the Japan site for about 5 months now so i knew a long time ago that this was the last 4G63 and I agree wid u about everything except the last thing. That depends on who is sayin it, i personally don't think it's gonna be the best, personally i think the V is the "best", then the IX, and then the VII after that. If u wanna tell which Evo is best then go by how many rally races that model has won or records it's broken not by the features it's gonna have. I'm sure its gonna be bad *** but there are things that i don't like about it like i've stated b4. Whether i like it or not I won't consider it the best untill i see results. For all we know it maybe great on the street but in the rally might not perform as well as the IX, u never know.
You have to remember that every damn year there are new and more strict safety laws which unfortunately means adding more weight which means that the exact same car with exact same specs except for the curb weight will perform worse.

Evo VI and Makinen won the rallies in mid/late 1990s but then in 2001 Mitsu decided to change from group A to WRC where the competition was a bit more brutal. Besides, Peugot and Citroen really pumped a lot of money in R&D since the 2000 so it was really tough to beat them considering Mitsubishi Motors financial situation, thats why Mitsubishi decided to leave WRC in 2005 because there was no point in spending in upgrading old technology when in 2008 all-new Evo X will come out.

When it all comes down to it Lancer Evo I to IX was riding on the same chasis with slight modifications from generation to generation, Evo I dates to 1992 so in some part the current Evo IX rides on a 14 year old technology. Evo X will be a totally new design from ground-up.
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by boostinjuice
Like said before, I believe that its going to be the same situation as the 2nd gen eclipse to the 3rd gen eclipse.
And I believe you are totally wrong. It's not even remotely close. EVo IX and X are both 2.0L turbo I4 AWD vehicles. Its not going to a FWD N/A V6 like the the 3G did.

The second gen turbo eclipse was the **** car to have. 4g63 turbo!
Actually if you want to go fast, the 1G is car to have. The fastest 4G63 AWD vehicles on earth are 1Gs. The 2G just looks better IMO, and if you want more reliable power, 2G DSMers do 1G engine swaps.

Repalcing the engine good be bad news. History tends to repeat itself. Buy your evo 8 or 9 4g63 while they last, becuase its very hard right now to find a good 2nd gen eclipse turbo. Soon, the 4g63 turbo evo will be lost.
So all our cars are going to spontaneously combust once the X comes out?

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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by boostinjuice
is there any other car beside the old eclipses and the evos with a 4g63?
There's the Galant VR-4.
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 06:45 PM
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I'm worried. I do not know the R&D focus on the Evo X, cost reduction or a bullet proof car.
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 10:33 PM
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I think the 4B11 was official when this guy said so:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...7&postcount=10

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Old Sep 30, 2006 | 08:43 PM
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Whatever engine Mitsu is going to put in the Evo X is going to be a good one! I believe in evolution, it's time for something new to start a new rally history book!
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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 07:42 AM
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I understand why mitsu is doing it, but Im going to be picking my IX up early next year.
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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 08:01 AM
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^^ Me too.
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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 08:07 AM
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in the end..we shall see
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 07:21 AM
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^^^ Tru
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 11:11 AM
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i read in an article that the new lancer ralliart will have more things in common with the evo x than in current version. the new ralliart will have turbo and awd and share the same body panels as the evo x. Mitsu needed a car to compete with the wrx. the 07 wrx will have a 2.5L turbo and 4 piston front and 2 piston rear brakes (not brembo). the ralliart will probably just have a basic awd system and no forge internals for the engine and would not be rated more than 250 hp. i can see a lot of people will buy the cheaper ralliart and convert them to evo.
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