Evo X review
Cabo and BlkFlat4, I now pronounce you husband and wife.
Wow, the writer goes so far as to warn current Evo owners/lovers to not read any further lest from being disappointed. Also, the writer describes the best part of the "old" Evo, its brilliant, memorable steering, as being gone, poof, a memory.
Even the writer, whom I doubt is a "fanboy," as you two love birds like to call the Evo faithful, was clearly disappointed. Usually, when a car proves the doubters/skeptics wrong, it's disclosed enthusiastically, with a celebratory spin. The only praise this C&D writer has of the "Ex-Evo" is its easy-to-attain, dumbproof, handling. So easy a caveman can do it. Look, mom, no hands kind of stuff. Boring and not as much fun or free as the previous car.
The Evo faithful are truly passionate about their cars. Rightfully so. The only way you can understand this passion is if you live it and breathe it.
It would've been convenient if this car didn't turn into some fat, completely different and awkward-looking car. The Evo should not be a car that means different things to different people. It should mean one thing, all focused ... to perform like the raw beast that it is.
Yeah, but everyone knows that Japanese spec Evos are inferior to the ones we get here in the States. This "prototype" is not the car that we'll get. No ... no way, no how. I mean, that wouldn't make any sense now, would it?
That X RS better be one hell of a car. The Evo of old.
Wow, the writer goes so far as to warn current Evo owners/lovers to not read any further lest from being disappointed. Also, the writer describes the best part of the "old" Evo, its brilliant, memorable steering, as being gone, poof, a memory.
Even the writer, whom I doubt is a "fanboy," as you two love birds like to call the Evo faithful, was clearly disappointed. Usually, when a car proves the doubters/skeptics wrong, it's disclosed enthusiastically, with a celebratory spin. The only praise this C&D writer has of the "Ex-Evo" is its easy-to-attain, dumbproof, handling. So easy a caveman can do it. Look, mom, no hands kind of stuff. Boring and not as much fun or free as the previous car.
The Evo faithful are truly passionate about their cars. Rightfully so. The only way you can understand this passion is if you live it and breathe it.
It would've been convenient if this car didn't turn into some fat, completely different and awkward-looking car. The Evo should not be a car that means different things to different people. It should mean one thing, all focused ... to perform like the raw beast that it is.
Yeah, but everyone knows that Japanese spec Evos are inferior to the ones we get here in the States. This "prototype" is not the car that we'll get. No ... no way, no how. I mean, that wouldn't make any sense now, would it?
That X RS better be one hell of a car. The Evo of old.
I honestly don't care about 0-60 times and 1/4 mile times, sure they're fun, but Evo's are made to go fast when there's corners and turns, and thats exactly what the Evo X is doing. I still say give it time and we'll see some better results, even if it doesn't prove to be the BEST Evo model, as long as it can hold up to the Evo VIII/IX and take them around the corner, I'm content with that. BTW, how many of you guys really cared about stock performance? and how many of you VIII/IX guys are still stock? Sure, the Evo's fun stock, but how many stock Evo's do you see, and thats the beauty of it. With minimal amount of money Evo's can make some serious power over stock, so if the X does the same, I'll be completely content.
Edit: Forgot to include about how much safer the Evo X will be. I love IX's, but those cars cannot withstand any type of damage, and if its between me or the IX, I'm choosing me lol..
Edit: Forgot to include about how much safer the Evo X will be. I love IX's, but those cars cannot withstand any type of damage, and if its between me or the IX, I'm choosing me lol..
Last edited by Caster; Sep 23, 2007 at 02:03 AM.
Doesn't anyone read the final paragraph A.K.A Conclusion?
"So the Evolution has been forced to grow up, and like most coming of age tales, some of it's raw purity was lost along the way. Sure, we'll shed a tear over what was left behind in the old Evo, but we'll be seeing it from the rearview mirror of the Evo X."
And this opinion is just based on a pre-production vehicle....
"So the Evolution has been forced to grow up, and like most coming of age tales, some of it's raw purity was lost along the way. Sure, we'll shed a tear over what was left behind in the old Evo, but we'll be seeing it from the rearview mirror of the Evo X."
And this opinion is just based on a pre-production vehicle....
Something doesn't add up because in the leaked spec sheet we saw 311 lb.ft @ 3500 verses 300 lb.ft @4400 that C&D have. That makes a difference in how it drives and how quick it really is.
I am saying that there is more power coming than what C&D got to test.
I am saying that there is more power coming than what C&D got to test.
Thats not a leaked spec sheet, its the JDM brochure. Could be the one they tested isn't the most up dated test mule and the spec on the sheet are what they the newer version of the pre-poduction cars are running.
I personally didn't like the looks but they are starting to grow on me. I don't have any intention of buying one unless I need a luxury car after I turn my IX into race car or the future wife wants one.
I wouldn't get too hung up about the stearing, there is alway a way after you buy the car to get it to perform however you want. Even with the VIII's and IX's people are always seeking to improve some aspect of the design, this is no different. And on the subject of the IX being the last true Evo, some might argue that the VI was the last true Evo since it was the last of the homolagated Evos.
My main point is that cars are gonna change and peoples preferences are gonna change, but with the info showed in that pre-production car test the X has the potential to be just as good the the IX. It may not be a quantun leap forward, but its not leagues behind either with the normal variance between magazines.
I would wait and see other reviews. I know that straightline acceleration tests ( I have seen 0.4 differences in the 1/4 between mags) and skidpad test ( I have seen 0.03-0.04 variations b/w mags here as well) can vary a lot between testers.
I personally didn't like the looks but they are starting to grow on me. I don't have any intention of buying one unless I need a luxury car after I turn my IX into race car or the future wife wants one.
I wouldn't get too hung up about the stearing, there is alway a way after you buy the car to get it to perform however you want. Even with the VIII's and IX's people are always seeking to improve some aspect of the design, this is no different. And on the subject of the IX being the last true Evo, some might argue that the VI was the last true Evo since it was the last of the homolagated Evos.
My main point is that cars are gonna change and peoples preferences are gonna change, but with the info showed in that pre-production car test the X has the potential to be just as good the the IX. It may not be a quantun leap forward, but its not leagues behind either with the normal variance between magazines.
I would wait and see other reviews. I know that straightline acceleration tests ( I have seen 0.4 differences in the 1/4 between mags) and skidpad test ( I have seen 0.03-0.04 variations b/w mags here as well) can vary a lot between testers.
Cabo and BlkFlat4, I now pronounce you husband and wife.
Wow, the writer goes so far as to warn current Evo owners/lovers to not read any further lest from being disappointed. Also, the writer describes the best part of the "old" Evo, its brilliant, memorable steering, as being gone, poof, a memory.
Even the writer, whom I doubt is a "fanboy," as you two love birds like to call the Evo faithful, was clearly disappointed. Usually, when a car proves the doubters/skeptics wrong, it's disclosed enthusiastically, with a celebratory spin. The only praise this C&D writer has of the "Ex-Evo" is its easy-to-attain, dumbproof, handling. So easy a caveman can do it. Look, mom, no hands kind of stuff. Boring and not as much fun or free as the previous car.
The Evo faithful are truly passionate about their cars. Rightfully so. The only way you can understand this passion is if you live it and breathe it.
It would've been convenient if this car didn't turn into some fat, completely different and awkward-looking car. The Evo should not be a car that means different things to different people. It should mean one thing, all focused ... to perform like the raw beast that it is.
Yeah, but everyone knows that Japanese spec Evos are inferior to the ones we get here in the States. This "prototype" is not the car that we'll get. No ... no way, no how. I mean, that wouldn't make any sense now, would it?
That X RS better be one hell of a car. The Evo of old.
Wow, the writer goes so far as to warn current Evo owners/lovers to not read any further lest from being disappointed. Also, the writer describes the best part of the "old" Evo, its brilliant, memorable steering, as being gone, poof, a memory.
Even the writer, whom I doubt is a "fanboy," as you two love birds like to call the Evo faithful, was clearly disappointed. Usually, when a car proves the doubters/skeptics wrong, it's disclosed enthusiastically, with a celebratory spin. The only praise this C&D writer has of the "Ex-Evo" is its easy-to-attain, dumbproof, handling. So easy a caveman can do it. Look, mom, no hands kind of stuff. Boring and not as much fun or free as the previous car.
The Evo faithful are truly passionate about their cars. Rightfully so. The only way you can understand this passion is if you live it and breathe it.
It would've been convenient if this car didn't turn into some fat, completely different and awkward-looking car. The Evo should not be a car that means different things to different people. It should mean one thing, all focused ... to perform like the raw beast that it is.
Yeah, but everyone knows that Japanese spec Evos are inferior to the ones we get here in the States. This "prototype" is not the car that we'll get. No ... no way, no how. I mean, that wouldn't make any sense now, would it?
That X RS better be one hell of a car. The Evo of old.
Use a little logic and stop basing your opinion of the car on a single preliminary write-up.
I've lived and breathed the passion and I do understand it. I've also learned that there's more to life than just the car that I own.
I've also learned that theres a fine line between passion and blindness.
Your immature "husband and wife" post speaks volumes about usefulness of your post. Stop being a drama queen because you're so hurt about a sensible post I made.
Cabo
Very interesting article
I think this makes for a very good insight on how the US spec Evo's will be. I still suspect the US models to have abit more power under the hood and I'm also curious as to the hints that in the end the summary of this Evo not being the beast of old, yet being capable of leaving a stock IX in the rear view.
Also curious as to how the STi's are performance wise... thus need to hear from them too. So in the end I have even more questions the I did before
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I think this makes for a very good insight on how the US spec Evo's will be. I still suspect the US models to have abit more power under the hood and I'm also curious as to the hints that in the end the summary of this Evo not being the beast of old, yet being capable of leaving a stock IX in the rear view.
Also curious as to how the STi's are performance wise... thus need to hear from them too. So in the end I have even more questions the I did before
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Last edited by DaIlladelphEvo; Sep 23, 2007 at 07:36 AM.
For us U.S. guys, the Evo 8 and 9 are all we know.
But remember: in Europe there are Evo 6 owners who think the 7, 8, and 9 are overweight pigs.
It's all relative, guys.
I'm prolly keeping my 8, though.
Me three. The steering sold me.
Earlier this year I drove a right-hand-drive car in Europe for the first time. I found it surprisingly easy to adapt.
Gear pattern is the same. Pedal layout is the same.
Driving on the left, though, was a mind-f***.
And here's a man who "gets it"!
But remember: in Europe there are Evo 6 owners who think the 7, 8, and 9 are overweight pigs.
It's all relative, guys.
I'm prolly keeping my 8, though.

Gear pattern is the same. Pedal layout is the same.
Driving on the left, though, was a mind-f***.

And here's a man who "gets it"!
I'm less concerned about the 1/4 mile performance, and more bothered about the steering. It's easy to add more aftermarket power, but getting the steering to the right level of responsiveness and feel is much more difficult.


