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Old Jan 24, 2004 | 11:20 AM
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Damnit,every time I see this car, the more I want it. It is an evo, but just that much more. Those wheels, the headlights and taillights, the automatic climate control, and the lighter roof just make it that much more appealing. Oh yeah, did I mention a 6th gear?
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Old Jan 24, 2004 | 12:47 PM
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Originally posted by Mister2zx3
an MR here would make a great weekend track car, if you had issues getting it tagged and insured..
see thats the only thing i don't understand. my dad went to Germany and bought a c32. he had is sent over here ($2000) and he had no problems with it. i know Mercedes does this all the time but if you look at his insurance card it says something to the effect of "03 Mercedes Benz (a)c32(1) AMG" and not just "03 Mercedes Benz c32 AMG"... i don't understand why we couldn't do something the same regardless of emissions (it is the same as the regular evo right?) or saftey... we also have close ties to Allstate Insurance Co. in our area. i'm not saying all of you are wrong about the MR, but i'd still like to hear it from the dealer to give me a real reason why he can't sell me one. i might even talk to the insurance company owner to see what she say's about imported cars. who knows she might find a loop hole in the regulations to allow me to drive this car on the street.
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Old Jan 24, 2004 | 08:30 PM
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Your dad is buying a US-spec car, but taking delivery of it in Germany. It is a fully US-legal car with a 17 digit US VIN, it's not a Euro-spec car. Porsche and BMW offer the same service as well.

It is possible to register a non-US car for the road, but it takes an Act of God and is only legal for 12 months, after which the vehicle must be exported or crushed - the DOT will gladly assist with the latter.

Another way would be to convince the DOT and EPA that the vehicle is > 25 years old. That may not fly either...

Charles
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 07:40 AM
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I guess I should havebolded or underlined or done something to underline the *IF* in my previous post. I agree jadiem, I think getting it all legit here would not be much of a problem as actually getting one here for a reasonable cost.
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 12:41 AM
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Deep Inside LANCER Evolution VIII MR
Craftsman's Spirit
www.evoclub.net

translated with Babelfish...

As for the rival of oneself the run sir evolution which as if to say, keeps continuing evolution with oneself intently into Stoic. This time, the new model to which tuning for ƒGƒ“ƒX[ƒWƒAƒXƒg is administered ƒGƒ{ VIII by the base was developed. The name run sir evolution VIII MR (Mitsubishi Racing). There was a name car of the Žì ball which at one time, ƒMƒƒƒ‰ƒ“ GTO MR (1970 sale) with is said. One unit of ŸÓ body which is entitled the emblem of Mitsubishi tradition. That is run sir evolution VIII MR. It made in the background and the thinking where the developers who are the hand are hot was included. Here, in MR all passion it will try peeping through the drama of the people who can tilt.

Chapter 1 - TOTAL CONCEPT
When you mention run sir evolution, with the stage of WRC there is the image of the car which was forged via the intense fighting of the rival. Concept of ƒ‰ƒ“ƒGƒ{, in a manner of speaking is the spiritual characteristic which flows to root probably in the first place some kind of ones? "As for being the car to which ƒ‰ƒ“ƒGƒ{ from WRC and other motor sports receives technical feedback you are not wrong. Simply, we would like to make the sport car at the position where than that it is closer to the customer, is the basic stance of Mitsubishi. As for Mitsubishi if the car which can run the public road from former times, is not used, that, you thought "motor sport activity should not be done, (Iwata). The race/lace place and rally field you run and yearning to the form of the car which it comes out, you would like to keep offering the car which is close to as much as possible "real thing" to the user which went to the showroom. Such a, Mitsubishi motor sport philosophy you probably can say that to end it has appeared even in the attitude which continued to adhere to the participation with group A stipulation, in WRC. "It is good, ' feeding back the technology which is accumulated with motor sport, it equipped this part and function ' it does how expression it is not, is? Certainly, it feeds back the individual part and function and technology to ƒGƒ{. Has considered, as for me as the mind air where a certain meaning and Mitsubishi continue to challenge to motor sport is first feedback what. Foundation of the car, very that evolution. It is possible to call soul of ƒGƒ{ just. Also our engineers, always being conscious of that, participated to the development of run sir evolution. The feeling whose development position is hot, if it can keep conveying to the customer, through the product with you think ", (Iwata).

The soul which resides in ƒ‰ƒ“ƒGƒ{, it is not something which can display with only keyword and the various functions such as "WRC" on the other hand it is something which itself is rooted of Mitsubishi in stance deeply. As a phenotype of the soul, with MR approach of genuine favoritism is taken on the wrapping. "Exterior form without changing from VIII, standardizes the color ring with dark tone, has finished the feeling which was seen astringently. To tell the truth, there is a reason even in this. The development concept of MR is "prototype". Of course, it is completion shape as a commodity and, there is also a self-confidence, best ƒGƒ{ which we can show at present time. With says, this in a last way. As for ƒGƒ{, there is a process which always evolves into the following step. Not only the appearance, in order for content to keep evolving securely, with MR the raw ‚Á ‚Û ‚* we showed, you applied, don't you think? it is ", (Fujii). In other words, it means that, real at present stage of ƒGƒ{ which continues evolving as an eternal prototype fate is attached was announced applied the form. To here, past there was an example which includes the pride in one car, probably will be? It is not the prejudice barrel and Hirotune for Mitsubishi ƒGƒ{. Therefore "to also considerable unreasonable difficult problem, ' ƒGƒ{ ' with the fact that there is a part which with the notion that where you say also the production section agrees upon is fact. You think that the hot feeling where it confronts ƒGƒ{ which has become such company-wide assemblage, Evolution (evolution) it points this car. And the evolution pulling, it keeps being reflected by all cars which are sent out from Mitsubishi, that perhaps it is possible to think. As for the mission which is assigned in the run sir evolution which is the Mitsubishi flagship model, you can say that it is very large, "(the American valley).

Chapter 2 - BODY
The roof is designated as the aluminum. It is simple as it is called in the mouth, but the numerous technicians tackling so far, it collapsed, it is difficult theme. That the fact that it achieves for the first time by the domestic mass production car, is run sir evolution VIII MR. If "the body is all aluminum, story is simple. There is a difficulty in making the iron and the aluminum connect which are the strange material it is ", (Ogawa). When the metal which differs is made to connect, electricity 蝕 (one kind of rust) occurs from potential dirrerence of each material. Until you say, without, the rust is the powerful enemy for the car. "This time the problem was cleared by using the rivet like the rust structural adhesives and SPR (the self ピアッシング rivet) with without the uniqueness which is said. After, the occasion where it passes by the line of electrodeposition with the aluminum and the steel because the coefficient of expansion due to heat differs, it is little in, a weaker aluminum roof but the distortion occurs, it is. If board thickness is increased simply, it solves, it is however, then to with special care aluminum until there is no meaning of lightening. While to lighten to the extremity, it was necessary also for sufficient strength to guarantee. By the fact that the bead (the renforcing plate) it passes to the roof result, the problem is solved ", (Ogawa). The actually place, from stage of エボ VIII development Mitsubishi had done the development of the aluminum roof on the strictly confidential reverse side. Because of that when a rumor that being audible, also the rival manufacturer has tackled, "honesty, being, passing, you could not be," (Ogawa) with you say. Result, deep attachment of the development position which repeats trial and error is hidden in the background which carries out the first to arrive.

End of the hardship, the aluminum roof which is completed at last. But, if it is not possible, you can call that the user which obtained MR really gets wise the effect that excessively there is no meaning. "This time, 4kg, it was possible to decrease the quantity by the fact that the aluminum roof is adopted. Perhaps, the car weight minus 4kg and the like of the car of 1400kg, is little distantly it becomes the feeling which, but, you think that with the kind of territory which can send ランエボ bodily sensation is possible securely. In order for you to know, because エボ is the car whose also center of gravity is high with front heavy, influence is very large, just which can decrease the weight of the part where it is in the position where the body is high, it is ", (Matsui). But when you mention the aluminum, it doesn't mean that rigidity falls? With the insecurity which is said hang on by any means. With MR how it probably has coped with the problem? "Rigidity falling of course, because even in what it does not become, the device was elaborated in the structural element of the roof and the connection part of the side panel of the body, it is. Result, rigidity improved in comparison with VIII. You think even at level of the town riding which the customer runs normally "that certainly you can realize, (Ogawa).

Chapter 3 - SUSPENSION
This time, anew asking cooperation as a part supplier the Bill Stein corporation and the BBS corporation. There was a form of the technicians who pursue ideal avariciously on the reverse side of the partnership. "Bill Stein meaning this time becoming new collaboration, it does, but at the beginning was worry just which clears the quality standard which Mitsubishi requires as a part of evolution," (Endo). From the competition scene to the town riding of every day, showing the highest performance under all conditions, characteristic of run sir evolution. Going it is, when developing also the hurdle which is assigned becomes high. There is an intensity of another case even in quality standard of the part. In addition, and to depend on brand power it is not degree of distinction of the part manufacturer, it seeks only the improvement of efficiency purely, you only inserted either the choices, part of the new manufacturer in range of vision. Don't you think? "simply, insecurity ended in unnecessary worry. It understood that making the prototype of suspension make while, it is the after all splendid part. If with the performance test which many times is done with developing, it falls even at one time, being to be out timing, it does, but believing, only it runs, that. Tight in schedule, the Bill Stein's person in charge it persevered and increased. Way them there is a respect in エボ, ' because it is equipped in ランエボ, ' with, you answered our requests at the development speed which cannot be thought normally, it is ", (Endo). You adhere to the material feeling of running, with the development of MR was important theme, but the fact that big role is carried out there, is this Bill Stein's suspension. "Bill Stein is following characteristic to the road surface is to call in any case preeminently. It keeps licking also road surface minute デコボコ cleanly, don't you think? it is. In comparison with the former suspension, at per same unit time, to be finer the quality where the response which works is good. Also riding comfort improved as that by-product "(Matsui)

The wheel of that light エボ VIII, with 4 furthermore the BBS wheel of MR which also 5kg lightens. To tell the truth, irregular passing production process, you say that it is installed in エボ. "Concerning the aluminum wheel, what it was said, light weight conversion in mind. Then offering the required specifications, when it has making on an experimental basis, being lightest, with the notion that where, rigidity is high, the fact that the reply which you thought well no corporation is given was BBS, it is ", (Endo) It is the wheel of the run sir evolution which is not other things. Every manufacturer which receives offer did the proposition which the shell quaintness it is hard to attach. Even among those the prejudice of BBS topped the group. For example ", the examination that met, we would like to modify the tapered angle of the part which the hole of the wheel nut opens for lightening it is. When you mention some thing, on the production line the wheel being to have installed automatically with the machine, it does, but unless it tightens and it is there is an opening in the machine and the wheel there are times when the scratch is attached to the wheel, it is. So, without acquiring angle, if it shaves to very limit and is packed, a little is, but you can drop weight. This time, obtaining the special cooperation of the factory, modifying production facilities, somehow it is the actualization red sandal wood then. As we in the effort of BBS you answered, you applied, is as for the feeling that and, we would not like to compromise, because it is the thinking which is in common to all people who are related to MR ", (Endo)

Chapter 4 - ENGINE
The worldwide strongest saying as 2 liter class, it is not overstatement, heart 4G63 of ランエボ. Each time it accomplishes ultimate evolution already with refining which is piled up, is thought high. But furthermore it was enhanced by the prejudice where the technicians are hot, shot the new shining. "This time toward aiming" to on literally from under, "it developed. So far, エボ had received the appraisal, torque full in comparison with the rival car, but the notion that where is "that it will try not to drop torque to higher revolution, (moderation) Not only rally field, you aim toward the strongest even with the circuit. Ambition of the development position which does not have the fact that it ends as greatest in the world severity means to be tried with circuit ニュルブルクリンク which is commented as though it is the seeking road person of speed and strength. When "high revolution is seriously considered, low the fact that the rotary limits fall, is general common sense of engine development. Even at development stage it shakes seasoning the engine in either one, for and against both theory it was. Simply, because MR while having cooperating to also Bill Stein and BBS, had aimed toward the car of ニュルブルクリンクスペシャル circuit concern, also the engine will advance maturing with the directivity, that. It is low, while designating the sacrifice of the rotary limits as minimum, it came to the point of probably going with quality of high revolution inclination, it is ", (Kato) 4G63 which is the supercharging engine. The improvement was begun from the fact that this time it reworks to the turbo. "In order to raise the output in the high rotary limits, we had decided to use the turbo whose nozzle diameter of high-speed type is larger. So when it does, because it goes to the direction where torque of the low-speed limits falls by any means, with the technology which was fed back from WRC, it is the red sandal wood in taking a second look the control system of supercharging pressure. Concretely, it added the supercharging oppression business solenoid, expanded degree of freedom of control substantially, way rpm of the turbine does not fall, it did even in the low-speed limits furthermore including improvement to form of the west gate valve, ", (moderation)

Especially, torque full ランエボ, it was the identity for the rival car in the concave fast limits, but this time a certain meaning, being able to meet to the territory of the withdrawal which is contrary with that, you challenged. "The honest place, development first stage low-speed torque falling rather, is the hardship red sandal wood. Because it changed also the cam into those of high-speed type, don't you think?. ' There is no with this エボ from the test driver! ' Those where how complaint comes out is ", (moderation) But, kind of fine passes through the hole of the needle with while repeating try & error, it kept taking also the balance of the cam. In addition, also the form of the west gate valve of new adoption carrying out big function in response improvement, you gave. "The 4G63 engine which was mounted in MR, when you see with performance curve, other than just drop doing a little in the polar low-speed limits, torque raises at entire area. MR, it just did at first glance being the place where it is not understood, has accomplished considerable evolution. Furthermore, also the potential which is concealed is suitable ones. If you refer to the engine, for example from 3 layer it has strengthened also the cylinder head gasket in 5 layer, but this is the improvement which expects 300 horsepower exceeding. Because it changes to the piston and the head, attendant upon that don't you think?. In the marketing car there is no over quality? So you do not think under any condition. Because, because it is run sir evolution ", (Kato)
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 07:58 PM
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I know it's a translated page but..

I can't undestand ANY of it..
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 08:49 PM
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Is that an S2000-like antenna on the MR? I just noticed this playing Gran Tursimo 4 Prologue.
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 08:54 PM
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The JDM Evo's all have short antennas IIRC. And yeah, the prologue is fun!

The third camera view is kinda wack though, and it's hard as hell to get gold on that one license test with the MR, where you need to get below like 1'06 on the Tsukuba??
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 10:30 PM
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Prologue is fun I've been able to get under 1'06 with the MR but not in "school" mode. Upon first using the MR, I found it troublesome compared to the GSR... it started to behave more like a Skyline(?) I've gotten better with the MR more so than the GSR but it seems the MR makes little difference. The grey metallic color is growing on me, then again all the other colors to choice from with maintain the grey metallic (or unpainted CF?) wing. When GT4 does come out it's going to be a hellva a lot of fun online. I'm sure I'll be racing against quite a few other evolutionm.net members here
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 10:51 PM
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Yeah, I think the CF wing comes unpainted on the MR. It seems "black" on all the colors. In the picture we've seen, the grey metallic is probably too close to the black to really tell a difference (no zoom shots of the wing).

I've actually been having lots of trouble with the MR for some reason? When I play I turn off all the traction control stuff cause I really don't like how it feels, but then sometimes it's hard to do high speed corners without TCS. I think the best I've done on Tsukuba is like maybe 1'07.XX but I don't remember what.. it's like silver in school mode.

Oh well this is getting kinda off topic, but I will be preordering GT4 along with that awesome new wheel (and shift knob, to boot! looks like a seq. shifter..).
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Old Feb 1, 2004 | 08:09 AM
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Where can I get this GT4 Prolouge? And is GT4 coming out any time this year?
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Old Feb 3, 2004 | 12:42 AM
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The JDM MR edition comes in various colors and in GSR/RS versions too.

http://www.japanvehicles.com/newcars...vo8MR/main.htm
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Old Feb 3, 2004 | 07:48 AM
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What is the
"Turbo charger alloy, titanium & aluminum"
Option?

"Price List
Model Grade Gear Box F.O.B. (Japanese Yen)
4WD 2.0L
I/C T/C GH-CT9A GSR 6MT JPY3,563,000 FOB
RS 6MT JPY3,411,000 FOB
5MT JPY2,952,000 FOB"

Is that (FOB) Fresh of the Boat pricing?

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Old Feb 3, 2004 | 07:53 AM
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It looks like the GSR is pretty much the MR, which would match up with the Popular Mechanics article stating the MR Evo will be in the US as a 2005 Model... bilsteins, aluminum roof, 6spd...

Can I get Cruise Control already.... and trhow in a Sequential Manual Transmission just for kicks, so it'll confuse all the kiddies, is it real rally race car, Daddy is it, huh?... with an interior??

<tingles>
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Old Feb 3, 2004 | 03:07 PM
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GSR, RS and RS-2 are just trim levels.
The MR is the model, just like the evo6.5 TME was a new model and that had GSR, RS-2 and RS trims.
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