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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 08:50 PM
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Steven I think I know what's happening. I can't remember exactly but this was one of the problems I was still working on in this tune. I think I had the open loop thresholds set too low and so under very mild acceleration even just a spirited stoplight takeoff it would go into open loop too soon before hitting boost and dump that extra fuel too early causing the loss in power you are experiencing
I think thats exactly what's going on any clue on how to change the loads? I got ecu flash to work now

And I'm leaking oil there is my cool update I think i burnt a hole in my feed.line because it was touching the O2 housing so I need to buy another line

And can anyone tell me in my pics is my bov the right way?
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Old Jul 3, 2010 | 12:35 AM
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Its hard to say. If you were running an evo maf I could send you my current tune which has alot of things fixed. All in all the tune worked pretty good for me although every tune has its issues. I put a hose clamp around an ic pipe and used that to keep the feed line away from danger. Its not tight by any means dont wanna pinch that guy but just helps to keep it from going where ever. Your bov is setup the same as mine only difference is you have the longer tube coming from the recirc pipe and I have it coming off the intake pipe.

Kinda off topic I had an interesting day went to ride my quad with a buddy and rode for 5 mins then spent 3 hours winching it outta the 40ft cliff I tumbled down with it. Its only funny since I am fine other than a bruised leg and so is the quad but man I am good at pulling that kinda crap.

Steven as soon as you get your cable and can do some logs not too much we can do for ya. As soon as you do get it send me some logs and i can see what i can do to help ya out
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Old Jul 3, 2010 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by 03lances
Its hard to say. If you were running an evo maf I could send you my current tune which has alot of things fixed. All in all the tune worked pretty good for me although every tune has its issues. I put a hose clamp around an ic pipe and used that to keep the feed line away from danger. Its not tight by any means dont wanna pinch that guy but just helps to keep it from going where ever. Your bov is setup the same as mine only difference is you have the longer tube coming from the recirc pipe and I have it coming off the intake pipe.

Kinda off topic I had an interesting day went to ride my quad with a buddy and rode for 5 mins then spent 3 hours winching it outta the 40ft cliff I tumbled down with it. Its only funny since I am fine other than a bruised leg and so is the quad but man I am good at pulling that kinda crap.

Steven as soon as you get your cable and can do some logs not too much we can do for ya. As soon as you do get it send me some logs and i can see what i can do to help ya out
Ok sounds good bro I'm going to hurry and buy that cable its the 1.3 tactrix right?
Sorry about ur quad and your leg lol I'm pretty much a bike guy for obvious reasons,lol jk well at least no one was seriously hurt. Yeah send me your current tune and I will compare the maps and change the fuel loads but not the maf settings maybe that will help
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Old Jul 3, 2010 | 07:38 AM
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Anyone know where I can buy another oil feed line from? I also need to buy crush washers as well so hopefully the same company. i have that banjo nut i forgot what size it was
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Old Jul 3, 2010 | 08:38 AM
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Old Jul 3, 2010 | 09:26 AM
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Don't forget to run a boost leak test before you even start ANY tuning. I don't know about your throttle body, but the shaft seals on my IX were toast. They were leaking like a ****! I only went up to 5 psi when I was testing it cause they were hissing so loud. I could only imagine how much air was leaking at 30 psi!
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Old Jul 3, 2010 | 09:31 AM
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Don't forget to run a boost leak test before you even start ANY tuning. I don't know about your throttle body, but the shaft seals on my IX were toast. They were leaking like a ****! I only went up to 5 psi when I was testing it cause they were hissing so loud. I could only imagine how much air was leaking at 30 psi!
everything is pretty much tight I never heard a hissing noise when im driving, but I need to buy a new oil line... What size is the an size for the oil feed banjo, and how long does the line need to be?
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Old Jul 3, 2010 | 10:07 AM
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everything is pretty much tight I never heard a hissing noise when im driving, but I need to buy a new oil line... What size is the an size for the oil feed banjo, and how long does the line need to be?
You have to do it when the car is off. And you would have to have a serious boost leak to hear it when you are driving around.
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Old Jul 3, 2010 | 11:17 AM
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You have to do it when the car is off. And you would have to have a serious boost leak to hear it when you are driving around.
Hey, I got a question. I made a "homemade boost leak tester" out of some PVC pipe ends and a pneumatic tool attachment. One end is solid, and I put it place of the throttle body where the IC pipes connect. The other end I put on the intake side of the IC piping. I did all of this for testing the used intercooler I bought, so I could know if it was toast before installing it.

My question is this though, once the car is all setup (i'm still collecting pieces) how do you test for a boost leak. Do you disconnect at the throttle body and cap that end, then connect the pressurized source to the turbo inlet, the airfilters connection, the spot the jpipe connects, or what?

Also, obviously I only presurize as much as you'll boost or a little more, not like 40 psi or anything.
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Old Jul 3, 2010 | 11:21 AM
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Ok sounds good bro I'm going to hurry and buy that cable its the 1.3 tactrix right?
Sorry about ur quad and your leg lol I'm pretty much a bike guy for obvious reasons,lol jk well at least no one was seriously hurt. Yeah send me your current tune and I will compare the maps and change the fuel loads but not the maf settings maybe that will help
I bought the OP 2.0 and I think it was the wrong decision, you should get the 1.3. My reasoning was "well it'll be more useful if I buy another mitsu or a subie or something because 2.0 has more compatability"....but, from what I can tell there is a ton more overhead that goes into using the OP2.0, so if you can get away with a 1.3...you should. We can, so I say save 40 bucks or whatever, get the 1.3u with a reflash connector and ecuflash serial number built in or whatever.

Just my knowledge after owning the "cable" for 1 day, lol.

Oh, I also thought, "hey, cool, logging without a usb cable" but I don't know how that works, and I don't really see a huge need for that, since most people aren't constantly logging anyways....they tune, and log, then they just drive. Every so often a retune, but no reason to go 2.0.
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Old Jul 3, 2010 | 12:49 PM
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Ok sounds good bro I'm going to hurry and buy that cable its the 1.3 tactrix right?
Sorry about ur quad and your leg lol I'm pretty much a bike guy for obvious reasons,lol jk well at least no one was seriously hurt. Yeah send me your current tune and I will compare the maps and change the fuel loads but not the maf settings maybe that will help
You cant use my current tune as since I have the evo maf my loads I am hitting are 182 max. This means I am not even starting to retard timing or richen up the afrs until like 120 load which is already past your max
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Old Jul 3, 2010 | 02:44 PM
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so does anyone know what size feed line I need again? I need to buy another one, and also to keep it away from the turbo cant you just use metal clamps or zip ties and use those to put it near the radiator pipe near the turbo and work the line around to the sandwich adapter/hex bolt? I might do that but I dont know if that pipe gets pretty hot to melt the outside of the line? Just need a clever way to save money on lines and stop burning them up
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Old Jul 3, 2010 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by HornstarBU
Hey, I got a question. I made a "homemade boost leak tester" out of some PVC pipe ends and a pneumatic tool attachment. One end is solid, and I put it place of the throttle body where the IC pipes connect. The other end I put on the intake side of the IC piping. I did all of this for testing the used intercooler I bought, so I could know if it was toast before installing it.

My question is this though, once the car is all setup (i'm still collecting pieces) how do you test for a boost leak. Do you disconnect at the throttle body and cap that end, then connect the pressurized source to the turbo inlet, the airfilters connection, the spot the jpipe connects, or what?

Also, obviously I only presurize as much as you'll boost or a little more, not like 40 psi or anything.
You leave it all connected. Obviously its only pressurized from the turbo on so you dicconnect your intake/filter pipe connecting to your turbo inlet and connect your testor on there leaving it connected all the way to the engine. This way you can test every connection from the turbo J-pipe all the way to where your intake manifold connects to your head for leaks. I believe they mention to remove your BOV and plug the hole.

Steven I used these guys to have my feed line made.
http://www.houseofhose.com/ Top quality fittings and line and very good prices I will use these guys again. Matter of fact already have to have custom tranny cooler lines made for a guys cougar I worked on lol. Tried to search through my thread for my feed line specs but that alot of pages and I have to leave for work now I will keep looking after work unless someone give you an answer

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Old Jul 3, 2010 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 03lances
You leave it all connected. Obviously its only pressurized from the turbo on so you dicconnect your intake/filter pipe connecting to your turbo inlet and connect your testor on there leaving it connected all the way to the engine. This way you can test every connection from the turbo J-pipe all the way to where your intake manifold connects to your head for leaks. I believe they mention to remove your BOV and plug the hole.


Steven I used these guys to have my feed line made.
http://www.houseofhose.com/ Top quality fittings and line and very good prices I will use these guys again. Matter of fact already have to have custom tranny cooler lines made for a guys cougar I worked on lol. Tried to search through my thread for my feed line specs but that alot of pages and I have to leave for work now I will keep looking after work unless someone give you an answer
ok sounds good just let me know what the thread size is I can always measure mine with a ruler and buy the same line. I think its 1/8 pt but not sure for a fact. Can you zip tie or use a metal clamp to put your feed line next to the radiator pipe to prevent a burn? Just need to know!
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Old Jul 3, 2010 | 08:07 PM
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ok sounds good just let me know what the thread size is I can always measure mine with a ruler and buy the same line. I think its 1/8 pt but not sure for a fact. Can you zip tie or use a metal clamp to put your feed line next to the radiator pipe to prevent a burn? Just need to know!
What size is the connection on your oil sandwich? I'm going to do what 03lances did using a hose clamp to keep the oil from the heat.

My oil hose is 4an to 90degree 4an, but get whatever fits on your oil sandwich to banjo...ii got mine the same size to keep it standard.
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