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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by steven121
if you need to see it just zoom in on your computer by using ctrl + the plus button next to the numbers
The numbers are nearly impossible to read when its in blue background.

I'm confused why your low octane fuel map is actually leaner than your high octane map which the car should run off of. That scenario should be reversed.

I find your open loop settings interesting perhaps too aggressive. Open loop settings should at the most just skim across the 14.7 cells only.

So for you that would look something like this:
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Was there any reason that you are attached to the lancer base rom rather than using tephra's patch? The reason i'm concerned is the lancer base rom cap's the load at around 115 or so. It also caps the injector pulse width so you can't use the full potential of the fueling system. This is dangerous on a turbo car imho you end up tricking the car's settings to try and force more fuel in instead of using a proper rom that will simply fuel it like it should.
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by RoadSpike
The numbers are nearly impossible to read when its in blue background.

I'm confused why your low octane fuel map is actually leaner than your high octane map which the car should run off of. That scenario should be reversed.

I find your open loop settings interesting perhaps too aggressive. Open loop settings should at the most just skim across the 14.7 cells only.

So for you that would look something like this:
20
60
60
60
60
50
40
40
10
10
10
10
10
10

Was there any reason that you are attached to the lancer base rom rather than using tephra's patch? The reason i'm concerned is the lancer base rom cap's the load at around 115 or so. It also caps the injector pulse width so you can't use the full potential of the fueling system. This is dangerous on a turbo car imho you end up tricking the car's settings to try and force more fuel in instead of using a proper rom that will simply fuel it like it should.

do you want me to send the map through your email? and I will just pay you for wahtever tweaks you do? I dont want to change anything and then I screw it up. if you can do that I can look at the old map vs the one you send me and I can see what your talking about
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 11:35 AM
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ds anyone know if the tactrix cable 1.3 R "not the u" will work on my 02 lancer es? I got a guy who is pending on me
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by RoadSpike
The numbers are nearly impossible to read when its in blue background.

I'm confused why your low octane fuel map is actually leaner than your high octane map which the car should run off of. That scenario should be reversed.

I find your open loop settings interesting perhaps too aggressive. Open loop settings should at the most just skim across the 14.7 cells only.

So for you that would look something like this:
20
60
60
60
60
50
40
40
10
10
10
10
10
10

Was there any reason that you are attached to the lancer base rom rather than using tephra's patch? The reason i'm concerned is the lancer base rom cap's the load at around 115 or so. It also caps the injector pulse width so you can't use the full potential of the fueling system. This is dangerous on a turbo car imho you end up tricking the car's settings to try and force more fuel in instead of using a proper rom that will simply fuel it like it should.
where do I get this tephra patch at? and how much does it cost? im waiting on speedcorps to do my rom but its been 2 weeks and I havent heard from them at all
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by steven121
where do I get this tephra patch at? and how much does it cost? im waiting on speedcorps to do my rom but its been 2 weeks and I havent heard from them at all
Tephra's rom is free same as mine is.

Tephra's rom works if you are a manual lancer and I made the patch for automatics. Which one are you btw?
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadSpike
Tephra's rom is free same as mine is.

Tephra's rom works if you are a manual lancer and I made the patch for automatics. Which one are you btw?
I have a manual 2002 lancer es, if you can give me a link or send it through my email that would be great. stephen12211@yahoo.com

update great news im starting to lean out

I have to keep the rpms up to 1100 to keep the afrs around the 13-14 range because im going up to as high as 16-18 which is not good!!!

I need someone to tell me asap will the tactrix 1.3R "not U" work on our cars? I have one I need to buy right now!!!
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 01:04 PM
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1.3R will not work nevermind

still need the tephra rom!!! 2002 lancer es Manual

email me please

stephen12211@yahoo.com

if I need to pay I will going to job meeting now
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 01:13 PM
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1.3R will not work nevermind

still need the tephra rom!!! 2002 lancer es Manual

email me please

stephen12211@yahoo.com

if I need to pay I will going to job meeting now

If you have a working car best not to change it for the job interview now but I suppose you can always go back.

Link to the tephra patch:
http://www.globalshare.net/evo-mod/v...ears-Fixed.zip

You need to follow senates instructions for the periphery settings.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/7093422-post1.html

Next you'll need to copy your maf scaling, injector scaling, latecy, etc over to the new rom. I could do it for you if you really wanted maybe 03 lancer would be kind enough to give you his.
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadSpike
If you have a working car best not to change it for the job interview now but I suppose you can always go back.

Link to the tephra patch:
http://www.globalshare.net/evo-mod/v...ears-Fixed.zip

You need to follow senates instructions for the periphery settings.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/7093422-post1.html

Next you'll need to copy your maf scaling, injector scaling, latecy, etc over to the new rom. I could do it for you if you really wanted maybe 03 lancer would be kind enough to give you his.
haha lol I just got done I think I can manage plus it would help me learn. If its word for word I think I can do my self and if I need help I will ask indeed thanks guys!!!
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 02:50 PM
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haha lol I just got done I think I can manage plus it would help me learn. If its word for word I think I can do my self and if I need help I will ask indeed thanks guys!!!
Instead of trying to copy the fuel and ignition maps over to the new v7 rom which are much larger try just copying the low octane map to the high octane one. I know a couple who have run it and it was close enough the car wouldn't knock too badly for a starter point.
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 03:21 PM
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Instead of trying to copy the fuel and ignition maps over to the new v7 rom which are much larger try just copying the low octane map to the high octane one. I know a couple who have run it and it was close enough the car wouldn't knock too badly for a starter point.
should I copy the it from the stock map or the map I just put on the screen?

what I will do tonight is get the map ready, and post pics and everyone can tell me what adjustments I need to make
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 03:26 PM
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should I copy the it from the stock map or the map I just put on the screen?

what I will do tonight is get the map ready, and post pics and everyone can tell me what adjustments I need to make
I'm saying just use the low octane map already in the rom itself.
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 09:05 PM
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VIOLA!!! I got it all fixed and changed all the periphery codes, I will be double checking tonight to make sure nothing got changed on the codes. and then I will just copy some stuff over from the stock rom to the new rom and I can start tuning from there. That was actually really easy!!! Now I just need yalls help tuning.
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 09:41 PM
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He has my current injector settings already and as for the maf scaling I am not sure for him cause he is running the stock maf I would suggest changing the maf scaling to the stock 03 evo scaling this is what I am running and its perfect. I have the other maf settings changed to the evo too since I am running the evo 9 maf but obviously Steven will not have to change those since he is still running stock maf.
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 04:26 PM
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Update...

im flashing the ECU tomorrow afternoon I was able to aquire a tactrix cable. SO I will tell you guys tomorrow how the car runs. Hopefully after having the turbo on for at least 2 weeks I can boost :-)
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