02 Lancer ES Turbo Project
Jul 27, 2010, 03:04 PM
#754
my injector latency is
volts
4.6875 - 3.312
7.03125 - 1.680
9.375 - 1.032
11.7188 - 0.672
14.0625 - 0.432
16.4062 - .0264
18.6768 - 0.144
Injector scaling is 513
im getting knocks like up to 10 im not sure if there real or not but the afrs stay at a constant 14.9-15.0 they wont go higher or lower. and thats during idle.
So how exactly do i start tuning do i do the timing first, the afrs, injector scaling? its so confusing, im understanding it a little bit and I see that logging is the key. So Im going to need alot of peoples help with my tune and trying to understand so im not so dependent.
heres my log from earlier trying to pull out. its a bit long. I will be on tonight and I might do some tuning as well when i get back from the gf's house. But if you want to look at my rom let me know.
Jul 27, 2010, 04:00 PM
#756
There is too much data here for starters and probably not the right data.
don't need to log target idle.
afrmap is completely wrong not sure why but 128 is dead wrong
o2 feedback looks funky as hell it should be in a % not just -2 or whatever
All knock based logged items are not knocksum which is what you want and need
Baro has no need here unless you want to see if you overrun your filter
EGRtemp is basically for the most part completely useless
Octane number should read 100 or lower not 255 so something wrong there.
MDP appears to be measuring in kPa but thats just pickyness by me
Latency is dead wrong as a column showing a percentage instead of an integer like it should.
The last column seems to be calculated load but never use that the load the caps at 160 will be fine for you or 1byte if your using tephra's mod.
don't need to log target idle.
afrmap is completely wrong not sure why but 128 is dead wrong
o2 feedback looks funky as hell it should be in a % not just -2 or whatever
All knock based logged items are not knocksum which is what you want and need
Baro has no need here unless you want to see if you overrun your filter
EGRtemp is basically for the most part completely useless
Octane number should read 100 or lower not 255 so something wrong there.
MDP appears to be measuring in kPa but thats just pickyness by me
Latency is dead wrong as a column showing a percentage instead of an integer like it should.
The last column seems to be calculated load but never use that the load the caps at 160 will be fine for you or 1byte if your using tephra's mod.
Jul 27, 2010, 04:08 PM
#757
Moving my post about the log here since my post about the log items takes up too much space.
The log itself looked fairly normal except i can't see your AFR's. You claim they go really rich soon as you touch the throttle. I see a small blip on the injector pulse "async pulse adder" which is like the old carbs that used accelerator pumps.
Besides this you start taking off at an awfully low rpm making it hard to see any real changes especially when we lack AFR monitoring in the log.
Maybe do an experiment and see what happens if you just hold the gas down for a few arbitrary rpm ranges like 3k rpm and 4k rpm and watch your afr. This should give us enough range to figure out if your maf scaling is off or the injectors are off.
Another possibility is the maf compensation table. The evo maf is hugely insensitive to low airflow through it so basically the compensation on a stock evo removes lots of fuel on the low airflow side then it jumps drastically forward. Anything above 50hz is pretty huge in change .
The log itself looked fairly normal except i can't see your AFR's. You claim they go really rich soon as you touch the throttle. I see a small blip on the injector pulse "async pulse adder" which is like the old carbs that used accelerator pumps.
Besides this you start taking off at an awfully low rpm making it hard to see any real changes especially when we lack AFR monitoring in the log.
Maybe do an experiment and see what happens if you just hold the gas down for a few arbitrary rpm ranges like 3k rpm and 4k rpm and watch your afr. This should give us enough range to figure out if your maf scaling is off or the injectors are off.
Another possibility is the maf compensation table. The evo maf is hugely insensitive to low airflow through it so basically the compensation on a stock evo removes lots of fuel on the low airflow side then it jumps drastically forward. Anything above 50hz is pretty huge in change .
Jul 27, 2010, 04:11 PM
#758
Moving my post about the log here since my post about the log items takes up too much space.
The log itself looked fairly normal except i can't see your AFR's. You claim they go really rich soon as you touch the throttle. I see a small blip on the injector pulse "async pulse adder" which is like the old carbs that used accelerator pumps.
Besides this you start taking off at an awfully low rpm making it hard to see any real changes especially when we lack AFR monitoring in the log.
Maybe do an experiment and see what happens if you just hold the gas down for a few arbitrary rpm ranges like 3k rpm and 4k rpm and watch your afr. This should give us enough range to figure out if your maf scaling is off or the injectors are off.
Another possibility is the maf compensation table. The evo maf is hugely insensitive to low airflow through it so basically the compensation on a stock evo removes lots of fuel on the low airflow side then it jumps drastically forward. Anything above 50hz is pretty huge in change .
The log itself looked fairly normal except i can't see your AFR's. You claim they go really rich soon as you touch the throttle. I see a small blip on the injector pulse "async pulse adder" which is like the old carbs that used accelerator pumps.
Besides this you start taking off at an awfully low rpm making it hard to see any real changes especially when we lack AFR monitoring in the log.
Maybe do an experiment and see what happens if you just hold the gas down for a few arbitrary rpm ranges like 3k rpm and 4k rpm and watch your afr. This should give us enough range to figure out if your maf scaling is off or the injectors are off.
Another possibility is the maf compensation table. The evo maf is hugely insensitive to low airflow through it so basically the compensation on a stock evo removes lots of fuel on the low airflow side then it jumps drastically forward. Anything above 50hz is pretty huge in change .
Jul 27, 2010, 08:26 PM
#763
the only thing I didnt change was the maf size, open and closed loops, high and low octanes, maf scaling, injector sizes and injector scaling.
I have version 2.0 of mitsulogger