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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 08:52 PM
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I skipped some directions, I think i need to change the injector latency and the scaling.
Unless you have an evo maf you will need to change the maf scaling as well as the maf compensation table
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 08:57 PM
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Unless you have an evo maf you will need to change the maf scaling as well as the maf compensation table
beat you by a min with the same thing road lol
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 08:58 PM
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oh you two are so silly!
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 08:59 PM
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hahaha damn it link you are too fast btw hows your car running?

I never did find the culprit in the code dropping the timing down to -1 I may find it eventually.
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 09:11 PM
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hahaha damn it link you are too fast btw hows your car running?

I never did find the culprit in the code dropping the timing down to -1 I may find it eventually.
its been running good havent had much time lately to mess with the tune but still have some lean issues still, and start up is still a lil wacky, i been meaning to email you an update but havent had a chance to but ill send one in the morning when i get off work
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 09:40 PM
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its been running good havent had much time lately to mess with the tune but still have some lean issues still, and start up is still a lil wacky, i been meaning to email you an update but havent had a chance to but ill send one in the morning when i get off work
Cool I did find a couple wacky places where the code directly messed with the raw timing value. It may be the culprit for you.
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 09:45 PM
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and maf size and scaling cause i dont think your running an evo 399 maf
yeah I changed everything so far about to flash it in a minute, How would I scale the latency for the 440cc injectors? Or do I need to log it to see how it runs?

and is my mitsulogger the current version?
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 09:49 PM
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yeah I changed everything so far about to flash it in a minute, How would I scale the latency for the 440cc injectors? Or do I need to log it to see how it runs?

and is my mitsulogger the current version?
didn't you have settings from 03lance?

but yeah you generally start with something like 90% of the injector cc value for scaling and start logging and testing.
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 09:56 PM
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didn't you have settings from 03lance?

but yeah you generally start with something like 90% of the injector cc value for scaling and start logging and testing.
well I did but his was running really rough for some reason.I was rich around 10.0 on start up and after 5 mins of warming up it went back to normal. so do i just multiply a percentage that equals 412, and do that same thing for the latency values?
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 10:10 PM
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well I did but his was running really rough for some reason.I was rich around 10.0 on start up and after 5 mins of warming up it went back to normal. so do i just multiply a percentage that equals 412, and do that same thing for the latency values?
Start with lances latency values and just see how it goes.

The o2 sensor will tell us how to proceed. If its rich and pulling fuel we subtract latency by multiplying the whole right have side by a number to decrease them like 90% or 0.90 and the opposite is true if the o2 sensor says its adding fuel we simply multiply it by 110% or 1.10.
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 11:16 PM
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Start with lances latency values and just see how it goes.

The o2 sensor will tell us how to proceed. If its rich and pulling fuel we subtract latency by multiplying the whole right have side by a number to decrease them like 90% or 0.90 and the opposite is true if the o2 sensor says its adding fuel we simply multiply it by 110% or 1.10.
Is that rear or front my rear o2 is disconnected
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 12:56 AM
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Is that rear or front my rear o2 is disconnected
front of course the rear is for cat efficiency checking purposes.

the rear o2 can take over for the front but it does a terrible job of it.
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 08:17 AM
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Cool I did find a couple wacky places where the code directly messed with the raw timing value. It may be the culprit for you.
cool hopefully it is and sent my email rant update lol
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Ok so I used 03lances letency plus his scaling, car ran the same as it did last time, so I scaled the injectors back to 412 and the car idles excellent!!! constant afrs from 14.5-15.0, and when its warm it idles around 14.8-15.0 so not much of a change there but at least its constant. Ok so I think the idle is set, but when I step on the gas it revs pretty good I saw a few afrs go to 11.4 which is good, but when I let go of the gas to idle position from 2k to where ever, it leans itself out to afrs around 18.0. here are a few logs from mitsulogger, but when I get paid I will most likely buy evoscan.

I will post the logs later today
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 02:16 PM
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Ok so I used 03lances letency plus his scaling, car ran the same as it did last time, so I scaled the injectors back to 412 and the car idles excellent!!! constant afrs from 14.5-15.0, and when its warm it idles around 14.8-15.0 so not much of a change there but at least its constant. Ok so I think the idle is set, but when I step on the gas it revs pretty good I saw a few afrs go to 11.4 which is good, but when I let go of the gas to idle position from 2k to where ever, it leans itself out to afrs around 18.0. here are a few logs from mitsulogger, but when I get paid I will most likely buy evoscan.

I will post the logs later today
If it goes lean with the foot off the throttle that actually may be perfectly normal. The car ecu is developed to shut off injectors with decelleration periods of no throttle input.
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