CVT Turbo Update
Dec 12, 2010, 11:11 AM
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In theory, CVT would be faster than the Auto in a stock for stock heads up drag race.
Dec 12, 2010, 05:16 PM
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Rock, I read this somewhere and wonder what your take on it is:
So before you start a thread asking this questions google search lancer cvt turbos. Nobody has a cvt turbo with 200 hp that will last. Bolt ons are fine. You cant use a evo x setup or ralliart, turbo's are too much for the car unless you run 2psi on a aftermarket waste gate.
I wish there was some better news, but the cvt was not meant for performance thats the bottom line. It does what it was meant too. Sporty driving when picking up the kids. If you really want to turbo your car switch to a 5 speed.
NO switching to a five speed is not cheap. Buy a new car, or enjoy the one you have with knowing the fact its not a straight line muscle car. It is howver a corner carving pleasure cruiser. Invest in the suspension parts and auto-cross. Sorry but it is what it is.
I wish there was some better news, but the cvt was not meant for performance thats the bottom line. It does what it was meant too. Sporty driving when picking up the kids. If you really want to turbo your car switch to a 5 speed.
NO switching to a five speed is not cheap. Buy a new car, or enjoy the one you have with knowing the fact its not a straight line muscle car. It is howver a corner carving pleasure cruiser. Invest in the suspension parts and auto-cross. Sorry but it is what it is.
Dec 13, 2010, 12:39 PM
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This is incorrect. CVT can handle a great deal of pressure just not in a dynamic gear ratio operation. The TCU will allow for a great deal of slippage and engagement to counter act the higher TQ numbers. This has a great deal to do with the Anti Vibration Algorithm programmed into the ECU.
Heat kills the CVT. Not the TQ pressures.
250 to 300 hp is possible so long as you service your CVT frequently with fluid changes. At my last check in with my Asian contacts, CVT reinforcement (belt) is in the works, but they will not go into mas production until there is a market need for it.
Heat kills the CVT. Not the TQ pressures.
250 to 300 hp is possible so long as you service your CVT frequently with fluid changes. At my last check in with my Asian contacts, CVT reinforcement (belt) is in the works, but they will not go into mas production until there is a market need for it.
Dec 14, 2010, 01:04 AM
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hmm. audi turbos are performing well on the cvt and the main difference is the belt type. i was trying to figure out if we could change the rubber belt to chain belts and add a cvt cooler to handle the higher heat produced by the power.
Dec 14, 2010, 05:38 AM
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so what is the true issue here? is it stricly the turbo that the CVT cant handle? or the power? say bolt ons and a tune and some cams, lets say that made 200whp, would we still run into the same issues for the sheer fact that the car is putting down that much power?
Dec 14, 2010, 01:57 PM
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The belt inside the CVT is of a metal construction and reinforcement. One thing Rock has mentioned is the Timing chain in the engine isnt as strong as we would like it to be. So it is wise to stick to a strict servicing schedule and swap out the timing chain regularly. No reinforced chain is available at this time.
Dec 14, 2010, 03:07 PM
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Engine Timing belt is a Chain, regardless of Lancer CVT or 5 Speed. your still limited by the chain. It will hold, but you shouldnt drive super wild for too long (change your timing chain more often vs. waiting 100,000 miles.
CVT Belt will hold. User just has to minimize heat by using good gear oil (Redline CVT fluid) or ENEOS Cvt fluid (preferred). And not use D mode!
CVT Belt will hold. User just has to minimize heat by using good gear oil (Redline CVT fluid) or ENEOS Cvt fluid (preferred). And not use D mode!
Dec 14, 2010, 07:33 PM
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actually, there was a guy from tampa i think with a CVT with a custom kit built at a shop in orlando and during the tuning, the timing CHAIN failed on the dyno, causing catastrophic engine failure......how do I know? I asked the tuner personally.
Dec 14, 2010, 10:24 PM
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I am sorry for not being clear. The CVT trans has a belt and and small chain. I am referring to the CHAIN inside the transmission as a weak link.
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