Green_Bandit's 16g build thread
Let's not call it the hornstar rom, its just the tephra rom with lance stuff in it, lol.
Are you always lean when you accel? Just from a start? Just small tps changes or just large?
Are you always lean when you accel? Just from a start? Just small tps changes or just large?
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No, I dont always lean out on accel. Its kind of random, some times cold but most times hot IIRC.

I looked through the accel enrich tables and the only thing I saw with 0's is Accel vs. coolant temp.
None of you other guys are having this issue?

I looked through the accel enrich tables and the only thing I saw with 0's is Accel vs. coolant temp.
None of you other guys are having this issue?
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Ok, update. I was still working with the cranking thing but just poking around I saw my injectors were scaled to 320. It was just in the rom. So I changed them to the stock 232 settings and getting my trims now. But, first crank was perfect and none of that lumpy learning.
Also I had tuned for the 12 & 11 afrs but they were only going to about 13 in boost. The scaling is now letting it go to the 11's. So that's also a plus.
My problem now is I'm still getting this weird *** rattling. I thought it was the dp. So I check that...its not moving at all. Thought it was the upper ic pipe...no. so I'm stumped again. I can real it around center of the engine bay and maybe transfering under the car. I could have sworn it was the dp but that thing is stiff.
Also I had tuned for the 12 & 11 afrs but they were only going to about 13 in boost. The scaling is now letting it go to the 11's. So that's also a plus.
My problem now is I'm still getting this weird *** rattling. I thought it was the dp. So I check that...its not moving at all. Thought it was the upper ic pipe...no. so I'm stumped again. I can real it around center of the engine bay and maybe transfering under the car. I could have sworn it was the dp but that thing is stiff.
Just FYI, I am having accel enrich issues, so you know you're not the only one. I'm on Speed Density 2.0 though, and didn't have the issue until it, so once my VE is tuned out, I'll tweak the accel enriches. What I can tell now though, is that accel vs tps delta is like, changes in throttle position, vs the accel enrich incorrect table, which is more like extra fuel at any given RPM range. Not sure if that should be the evo stuff, the lancer stuff, or something else. I'm going to start with lancer stuff, since it worked well on MAF.
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Well, after a couple of days of fixing those injectors its running pretty smooth. After a cold start it actually runs rich instead of lean. That lean acceleration I used to get, haven't seen and its starting to feel like a Turbo car. I have open loop starting at 50 engine load starting at about 2700 or 3000. I wanted to test it before going to forced open loop.
That rattling has got to be the down pipe. I felt it up and its kind of tight around the black control arm area. I have some wrap and metal ties I want to pad it with but I can't find my only pair of work gloves and I'd rather not have invisible splinters in my hand.
That rattling has got to be the down pipe. I felt it up and its kind of tight around the black control arm area. I have some wrap and metal ties I want to pad it with but I can't find my only pair of work gloves and I'd rather not have invisible splinters in my hand.
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So, update. I met some other import guys out here in my new area and that motivated me to get on the ball with the Lancer.
Turns out that damn rattling was the down pipe vibrating on the control arm. So I wrapped that thing like a mummy and I am getting some decent logs again. Now that Im back on track Im tacking up higher and higher with these logs smoothing out knock.
While I am doing that does anyone mind taking a look at a few logs and let me know whats going on with some of these low counts of knock? Im referring to mostly the 1's. When I review I usually check for a voltage of .8 or above. Are strings of 1's to be ignored or should there be a whole degree pulled for it?
After I get that settled Im going to swap out the stockers for the 440's. With that I found this info helpful so Im going to put it in my thread also so I dont have to hunt for it.
Turns out that damn rattling was the down pipe vibrating on the control arm. So I wrapped that thing like a mummy and I am getting some decent logs again. Now that Im back on track Im tacking up higher and higher with these logs smoothing out knock.
While I am doing that does anyone mind taking a look at a few logs and let me know whats going on with some of these low counts of knock? Im referring to mostly the 1's. When I review I usually check for a voltage of .8 or above. Are strings of 1's to be ignored or should there be a whole degree pulled for it?
After I get that settled Im going to swap out the stockers for the 440's. With that I found this info helpful so Im going to put it in my thread also so I dont have to hunt for it.
Ok so since they are both negative and close that is actually a good thing that means your latency is pretty darn close(hopefully). negative mean the ecu is taking away 12.5% (which is that max the ecu can adjust in the LTFT) fuel trying to reach the stoich of 14.7 so what you want to do is raise your scaling maybe just by 10 to see if there is a change your not remember
lower scaling=more fuel
higher=less fuel
lower scaling=more fuel
higher=less fuel
Last edited by Green_Bandit; Aug 1, 2011 at 07:46 PM.
What load are you getting 1's at? It's really sweet that you are feeling good!!! I'm kind of the same now. I found out that the reason my coolant was going a little too high....t-stat is not working. I bought a new one, put both in a pot, boiled em, and they both opened right at 180....but the old one BARELY opened. So, post your logs, I'll look at them tomorrow morning when I'm waiting for work to "start".
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Yeah, it feels good to be making some progress again. The people I met were pretty impressed at what I did with the Lancer.
The 1's are kind of all over the place. From the mid 70's through 100's. Granted yes, some of the 1's the voltages are >.8 even .5
Check out the second log I put up. You'll see the 1 strings I was eye balling.
The 1's are kind of all over the place. From the mid 70's through 100's. Granted yes, some of the 1's the voltages are >.8 even .5
Check out the second log I put up. You'll see the 1 strings I was eye balling.
People do seem to love the lancer being so "different" than most of the other rides out there. Sure...a turbo subaru...woo hoo...a honda....sweet.....but the Mitsubishi Lancer, it's like BOOM , epic!!!
I'll check the logs in a bit here to see what you mean, but 1's all over still kind of sound like a little bit of something clinking around in there. What are you knock load thresholds set to btw, while I'm getting my "log reviewing" laptop out.
I'll check the logs in a bit here to see what you mean, but 1's all over still kind of sound like a little bit of something clinking around in there. What are you knock load thresholds set to btw, while I'm getting my "log reviewing" laptop out.
On my logs I have noticed that I'll get a count of 1 when I decelerate from being in boost. Like no knock when I'm in boost (100 to 110 load) but when I let off I'll get a count anywhere between 85 load to 98 load. It doesn't happen all the time but it does it from time to time.
I was getting counts of 1 before from 80 to 90 load with the voltage being below 1. I wanted to be safe so I pulled 1 degree back and I haven't had any knock there anymore.
I was getting counts of 1 before from 80 to 90 load with the voltage being below 1. I wanted to be safe so I pulled 1 degree back and I haven't had any knock there anymore.
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Someone please check these logs
No response to the other pulls, so I went back and cleaned up the timing some more. Im thinking its coming out better but still seeing some weird things.
#1 Are those strings of ones still. Should I be concerned about them if they are under 1.0 knock voltage. (First log)
#2 It seems as though multiple logs keep sending me to the 80-90 load 3500-4000 RPM range for straightening out knock. Ive been all in that area but it keeps looking like it wants more pulled. My question is; In the logs the timing displayed is that the timing it was hitting during the knock or after it was adjusted?
Should I shoot for a number close to what it was interpreting between the loads and low octane map?
#1 Are those strings of ones still. Should I be concerned about them if they are under 1.0 knock voltage. (First log)
#2 It seems as though multiple logs keep sending me to the 80-90 load 3500-4000 RPM range for straightening out knock. Ive been all in that area but it keeps looking like it wants more pulled. My question is; In the logs the timing displayed is that the timing it was hitting during the knock or after it was adjusted?
Should I shoot for a number close to what it was interpreting between the loads and low octane map?


