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Old Aug 23, 2011 | 06:39 AM
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Mine changes Hi and Lo map axis of Launch, ignition, fuel, alt ignition, alt fuel...don't use 3 of those, but just nice to know that in general, axis are referenced by multiple tables in many, if not almost all cases.
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Old Aug 23, 2011 | 08:09 AM
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Double Edit* I reviewed the logs, and I do see why your timing drops so suddenly. What boost are you at in those logs? That first one was like, so weird as the load increased outward, mine go up from like 120 load to 135 or so, yours are more like 80-115 or whatever, a bigger range. If you are WOT at like 6psi, then your timing in those logs is fine, right in line with mine, but if you're only just hitting boost, then your timing is too low and there is something making your knock sensor go ape spit. Are you 100% sure nothing is knocking around in there, the exhaust or what?

That first log I think I was at 6 but usually I'm at 4. It wasnt WOT. More around 70. Thebexhaust was rattling a while ago so I wrapped the down pipe. Now its not clanking around metal on metal but I can feel some extra vibration through the dead pedal.
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Old Aug 23, 2011 | 04:47 PM
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have you checked your hangers and see if you need to change them or maybe another hanger is needed in the middle of the exhaust to keep it more sturdy.
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Old Sep 30, 2011 | 08:58 AM
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Damn! been a month since and update? Well I have one. See this?



After reading the last couple of pages in 03lancers thread i figured that was the culprit. I thought if his little nub was causing false knock my full one had to be So I spent 7 hours yesterday taking off the turbo, grinding down the nub then reinstalling it.



Got it down to that. Now, just have to adjust the exhaust bit and I should be getting some good logs. Lesson learned is when the evom guys say do it this way. Do it. It's probably for a good reason...

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Old Sep 30, 2011 | 10:55 AM
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Where did you get your banjo bolt for the oil feed line??
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Old Sep 30, 2011 | 10:58 AM
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LOL You sure took a lot off of it. How much know were you seeing??
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Old Sep 30, 2011 | 10:58 AM
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Did you pull the whole turbo/mani combo off or just the coldside? I am going to have to park my car and pull everything out soon I can still hear the flapper rattling when I rev it at idle. Still having slow spool issues as well. Got a strange noise I can hear about 3k rpms too not sure what it is yet. Hoping not in the engine.
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Old Sep 30, 2011 | 10:58 AM
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Where did you get your banjo bolt for the oil feed line??
Ebay IIRC

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LOL You sure took a lot off of it. How much know were you seeing??
Yeah, I have great clearance now. I wanted to make sure I was not going to have to do this again. Such a pain knowing I wouldnt be doing this if I had done it right in the first place. I was getting a lot of random counts. I couldnt do any hard pulls without getting accurate numbers. It had me pulling so much to shut it up I had lost power.

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Did you pull the whole turbo/mani combo off or just the coldside? I am going to have to park my car and pull everything out soon I can still hear the flapper rattling when I rev it at idle. Still having slow spool issues as well. Got a strange noise I can hear about 3k rpms too not sure what it is yet. Hoping not in the engine.
I pulled off the whole damn thing. Mani and turbo.

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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 09:39 AM
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Ok, and got that down pipe fixed FINALLY! So Im getting more accurate logs.

SO now my next issue. Starting to lay on the throttle a bit to see whats going on and surprise; Starting to run lean under boost. Kinda weird for me because my HO maps are shooting at like 8.8 in the 120 and up load.

Stock injectors, stock fuel pump, stock MAF. Nothing really altered in my ROM except for timing and fuel.

Any suggestions guys?
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 09:57 AM
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Check injector scalings and latency.... make sure lean spool is off. Makall your fuel tables are set the same.
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by burner67
Check injector scalings and latency.... make sure lean spool is off. Makall your fuel tables are set the same.
Thanks for the tips.

The scaling is correct

The latency on the other hand not so much. Different from stock read settings.

Lean spool is set to start and stop at 1600

Do you guys using the evo ROM have alternate maps? I also have alternate injector scalings. Any idea if at what point or trigger the ecu may switch to those?

Do you suggest I change the alternate maps and launch maps,?
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 10:52 AM
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Yeah make all the maps same. They should ne disabled in the tephra mod options tho. What numbers do u see going into boost? Also r u auto?
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 12:20 PM
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They jump around a bit. Initially its set to go to 11's but as I apply more throttle and and boost it creeps up to 13's 14's and I saw it jump to 17 once before I let off.

Yup. Auto.
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 05:05 PM
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I'm having a similar issue. If I step on the throttle it gets lean, like way lean. I turned off lean spool because I read that it throws the AFRs off. Set it to start at 9k and see if anything changes.
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 05:38 PM
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I'm having a similar issue. If I step on the throttle it gets lean, like way lean. I turned off lean spool because I read that it throws the AFRs off. Set it to start at 9k and see if anything changes.
Thanks slater. ill give that a try. Youre using the Auto big maps too right?

Also went and changed my initial Injector Voltages from

1200 2.112
1800 1992
2400 1800
3000 1.296
3600 1.104
4200 0.792
4781 0.6

To

1200 6.120
1800 3.552
2400 1.776
3000 0.984
3600 0.480
4200 0.144
4781 0.6

Which is stock and that made my desired cruise AFR of 15.4 go to 16. Didnt help my lean issue but should that have really made a leaner .6 AFR difference?
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