SOrry to take it back here but I have been following this thread for weeks now. I think you guys are missing SDS's point, atleast as far as I can see it. If this were only a Turbo vs Supercharged thread then you guys could debate back and forth all the time. It is however entitled SDS supercharger done!!! Therefore all discussion should try to be pertinent towards that item.

I have nothing against either since my goals are N/A goals but I am watching so see what the FI guys are going to be capable of.

I just want to say that what has happened in here is very close to what went on in the EVO vendor forums with people entering one vendors post and talking about another vendors product. Stay on topic and I am sure the tech questions can be answered here, but don't say well R.. get's this or that. Make it SDS specific and I am sure things will be better here.

I'm learning as I go along too and the discussion is very informative but once again I am of the opinion that this became less an SDS thread and more of and RRM vs SDS thread.

Just calling it like I see it

WADAD

 

Hey Does the ripp require an aftermarket header, if so what kind of header... from what company?

 

i think they do if i remember correctly, but i dont remember which.

 

Does anyone know what header the Ripps SDS requires?

 

rpw

 

so they require the rpw header, what if i get the road race header will that werk?

 

I'm pretty sure Blazen's car has the RPW or Kamikaze header, but I don't think they've specified a particular model. They only said an aftermarket header was required and I think someone posted recently something about a danger of too much heat building and predetonation without an aftermarket header. Based on the design of the SDS, I'm guessing it doesn't require the header for fitment or anything like that, so any one that's better than the stock is fine, so long as air flows through it better.
-N

 

ya you can use any aftermarket header from what i remember. I think i remembre them saying something about the kamikazi one because it also had a DP

 

Any aftermarket header will do. The purpose is to release the additional cfm produced by the supercharger....We have not yet made our own and If we plan to they will be released probably by the end of the summer or later.

Note: I would appreciate it if anyone ansking a question did not write what they believe to be the possible answer in the question because it may be misunderstood by the group. Give me a chance to answer your questions before you assume. Thats all.

 

I think you're referring to me - sorry if I was wrong, but it doesn't sound like it. I remember you posting this answer already and that's why I posted it. If you post answers to the questions that others have asked, then those answers will be in the hands of those around here too and you won't have to answer every little detail question. The best way to get information out there is to make sure the enthusiasts have it. You can't expect people not to be helpful around here...
-N

 

Ok, here goes, straight up questiong... lets see if it's answered...

1) RIPP does the tester kit have any added parts not included with the production kit... ie: underdrive pulleys, more aggressive tuning, etc.

2) What does the future updatability of it... i mean if you go higher boost with better internals is it ready or do you just have to send the black box in for re-mapping.

 

The testing unit is different only with respect to small redesigns not relevant to the performance of the kit... In the past 8 months we have made significant jumps in progress with respect to the stock Mitsubishi processors (ECU). We are able to make all our power while maintaining near perfect (CARB standard) air/fuel ratio's. Which means the car runs as a factory stock modification including getting good gas mileage.

We also can send one tune out (Eclipse only) out for all our stages of performance up to 20psi. So an SDS customer can buy an SDS kit once and only have to by the relevant upgrades to make a more powerful car, without having to worry about a retune or tuning at all. A typical upgrade would be an over drive crank pulley and larger injectors… and then add pistons rods and cam as he would in any other upgrade… Since our electronics are adaptive they will trim fuel and move timing maps as the sensors see it. The new Gray Box (standard on the 04 kits) has a very fast processor in it which completely controls the stock ECU under boosted conditions. In addition we can preprogram “Loop Limits” which allows us to preprogram air fuel ratios that the GB can monitor and trim accordingly… Killer piece of hardware… there’s really nothing on the market like it! Of course that’s why we use it…

The group buy has been stalled for a few reasons;

1)We redesigned the Tensioner/idle pulley system to make it more user friendly in terms of installation

2)We are implementing our new Gray Box and resistor pack on the electronics’ side.

3)Finally we are implementing our new 2004 BYPASS valve which is louder and safer to run....

As for the kit... what we are testing is what the kit is intended to sell with... we have a complete list of parts right on our website...

Link:
http://www.rippmods.com/products/pro...&productId=101

The only things not listed are the new technologies we are working with right now.... we are very close to its inception though

The idea is to make CARB legal kits... but it takes time....

Everything that BlazinOZ has in his set up will be included in the kit as well as the addition of the products listed above at no extra charge.

 

so what your saying is - the kit comes out at 9psi standard - but can easily be upgraded to 20psi without too much work... which could mean running the car close to or just over 300hp?

 

Thats great... are you intending on doing the CARB cert then?

You say that the box will allow for further progression without tuning... is there already pulley designs for upgrading or is that something still needing development?

There are a lot of guys with built motors now, if they could get some interchangeable drive wheels for boosting higher when they buy the kit i'm sure they'd do that.

Is the injection system controlled by the box or an independant controller?

Will it also self adjust to higher boosts in order to keep temps safe or will it need recalibrated?

 

Oh and thanks for the quick and informative response!