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Old May 29, 2007, 07:51 PM
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4B11 dyno list

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EvoM test mule from Mitsubishi (article here) - 2008 ES, Fed (?)
Modifications: NONE
142.1 whp, 143 ft-lbs on DYNOmite dynamometer (gear unknown)
(Click here for graph.)

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SeRious08 - 2008 GTS, Fed (?)
Modifications: RRM piggyback, RRM pulley, Apex'i N1 muffler
122.85 whp, 123.39 ft-lbs on DynoJet dynamometer (4th gear)
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Works - 2008 Lancer GTS, PZEV-spec
Modifications: Works drop-in filter, Works Exhale axleback
132.3 whp, 131.3 ft-lbs on Dynapack dynamometer (4th gear)
Click for graph (or see post 87)

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MaRcO_GTS86's 2008 GTS, Canada-spec (152chp, same as Fed spec)
Modifications: RRM SRI, customized greddy cat-back exhaust, RRM pulley, customized intake heat shield.
Max HP: 154; Max TQ: 146 on DynoJet dyno (4th gear)
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CVT transmission

kmxxbadboy - 2008 GTS, unknown Fed or PZEV (lives in NJ, so most likely PZEV)
Modifications:NONE

Multiple runs (HP then TQ):
"3rd gear" - 113.89 115.72 & 119.13 118.35
"D" - 126.77 116.59
on DynoJet dynamometer
(Click here for graph.)

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Jake26 - 2008 GTS, Fed-spec
Modifications: RRM intake, RRM exhaust, RRM pulley

HP TQ
114.8 92.7
119.4 109.2
124.7 108.1
on Dynocom dynamometer (CVT, 3rd or 4th)
(Click here for graph.)

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3 different cars from LancerGTS's dyno day - all three were PZEV engines, Dyno-Dynamics dyno
Lancer GTS 5 speed: RRM pully/piggy and Injen CAI and Injen Exhaust: 126.3 hp
Lancer GTS 5 speed: Injen CAI and Greddy Exhaust: 122.1hp Click for graph
Lancer GTS CVT: RRM pully/piggy and Injen CAI and custom shop exhaust: 100.5hp

Injen - 2008 Lancer, trim level unknown
Click for graphs: Exhaust, Intake/exhaust
on Dynojet dynamometer (unknown transmission, unknown gear)

Youtube dyno video - no car info, no dyno info, not 100% sure on results.
Google translation of Spanish language posts seems to say 143whp.
YouTube reply says "148 Horsepower with only exhaust."
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Old May 30, 2007, 06:48 PM
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See there HP rating of 152 HP is off there is NO way you are only losing 10 HP from crank to the wheels! I wounder what the true HP at the crank is 160-170?
Thanks for the post SHEEP RRM

And the 04 RA was rated at like 163 HP and it was only putin 134WHP down. So mitsu has low balled there HP rating for the new 08 Lancer.

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I'd like to see the difference in the straight drive vs the CVT. See how much power is being lost through the CVT, if any!?!?
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Awesome, I've been waiting to see a dyno sheet. Thanks for the post bro
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Wont the GTS have less WHP than the ES do to the fact that it has larger wheels??
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Originally Posted by SLVROZ_03
I'd like to see the difference in the straight drive vs the CVT. See how much power is being lost through the CVT, if any!?!?
Give me a little time. I want the motor broken in first. But I do plan on Dynoing for a CVT baseline. Unfortunately, the only dyno nearby is a Mustang so I'm going to hear all kinds of "OMFG, that's way too low, what's wrong with your car?" . . .

(If you didn't know, the results on a Mustang dyno are generally 85% of DynoJet, etc.)
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never told u, but congrats on the gts blacksheep.
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only a 10hp loss? very interesting. I cannot remember exactly but my 02 RSX Type-S had 200hp and when dyno'd it only had 165(ish) layed down to the wheels. Hmm...Im curious if this number is underrated - what would the actual number be closer to??
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Originally Posted by Sir Lancer-lot
only a 10hp loss? very interesting. I cannot remember exactly but my 02 RSX Type-S had 200hp and when dyno'd it only had 165(ish) layed down to the wheels. Hmm...Im curious if this number is underrated - what would the actual number be closer to??
By my estimates, the CHP should be in the ballpark of 170 (going by the way we traditionally rate CHP). From what I've heard, they changed the ASA standards on how automakers can rate CHP; this has lead to lower numbers being listed.

An example being that WRXs have always been listed as 227 HP, yet despite Subaru upping the engine from 2L to 2.5L, it is now rated at 224 CHP. The car is most likely more powerful than before, it's just rated differently.
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Verrrrrry interesting... the Lancer doesnt feel like it has 170 under the hood, but that could be ofset by the fact that it is a 3000 lb. car.
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Well, with all due respect, I don't put much faith in "feel" - I've never once believed in the all-mighty "Butt Dyno" numbers...
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i always thought that in new cars today there hp was rated off of whp? or thats at least what i was told...
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Originally Posted by mguyott3
i always thought that in new cars today there hp was rated off of whp? or thats at least what i was told...
No all manufacturers are using engine dynos to rate their cars, so they are rated at the crank.
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interesting... so whos going to be the first to dyno off the crank to see if mitsubishi did under rate this engine?
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Originally Posted by mguyott3
interesting... so whos going to be the first to dyno off the crank to see if mitsubishi did under rate this engine?
No one. Not one single person ever engine dynoed their 4G94 in the 6 years since that generation of Lancer came out.

didn't intentionally underrate it. The SAE standards for measuring HP changed. Please try to understand that. Research it a bit more if you need to.


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