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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 02:22 PM
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All in all, what have we proved? That dyno results don't actually mean jack s**t in the real world.

The number genuinely does not matter. Sure, it's great if you want something to brag about. But in the end, comparing numbers is pretty much impossible.
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 03:11 PM
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How did they run it? In "D" or in "manual" mode? If "manual," what "gear?"
of course i ran mine in the manual mode, and we did many tests i did it in 3rd gear, then in 4th. and i also did one in D but the RPM got up there so quick and i only noticed i was only going 35MPH which is weird, its like cvt knew that the back tires wont spinning and it would not let me accelrerate any faster, its weird, but i think 124HP is right on the money for these cars, for cvt of course.
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 06:53 PM
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Had my 2008 Lancer GTS CVT dyno'd at Ivey Tune by Sean Ivey.

Here are my results:



Run #1 (Blue lines) was done in 3rd gear
Run #2 (Green lines) was done in 3rd gear
Run #3 (Red lines) was done in CVT automatic mode

Notice the difference where horsepower/torque start with the manual mode and with the CVT.
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 06:55 PM
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The car was also bone stock.

Point of note is that Sean told me that EcuTek was available for tuning our Lancers. =).
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by kmxxbadboy
Point of note is that Sean told me that EcuTek was available for tuning our Lancers. =).
Drooooool.
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 08:54 PM
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yep once again, comparing cvt lancers right on the money!
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 10:14 AM
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HP wise yes, but the tq figures were way off.

To this day I feel the dyno tech didn't know what they were doing with my car. It was a place that usually only deals with V8s. I'm going to take it to another DynoJet shop that speacializes in 4 bangers.
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 09:37 AM
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115-120 cvt
120-125 5sp.

Obviously you cant really compare different dyno's but in general your looking at about a 15%-20% loss (152*.82=124.64) And with the addition of bolt-ons you wont really see a large peek hp increase but rather more power through out.

While Jake's stock lancer was making 80-90hp through 4XXXrpm's Serious' may have been putting down 90-100 in the same range, this is typical of a lot of bolt-ons, you wont see much change in peek hp, but you will notice the difference in acceleration.
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by jmoz

While Jake's stock lancer was making 80-90hp through 4XXXrpm's Serious' may have been putting down 90-100 in the same range, this is typical of a lot of bolt-ons, you wont see much change in peek hp, but you will notice the difference in acceleration.
Jake's Lancer is not stock. Here is what he has on his car (copied from his signature):

[X] RRM Magnaflow axleback exhaust
[X] RRM intake
[X] RRM Rally Series LOWER TIEBAR (rear)
[X] RRM Rally Series LOWER TRUSS BAR (front)
[X] RRM Pulley
[X] RRM G.R.I.P springs

Basically everything you just said has been thrown out because they both have bolt ons. All this shows is that there isnt much of a difference with the parts when you get such wildly varied results.
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 10:34 AM
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Cough cough, obviously we need away to keep the results uniform. That or my head is going to explode talking about dyno numbers that just can't be compared.

I think GTECH is going to be the only saving grace, assuming it works on CVT.

I am ordering mine tomorrow. the Canadian dollar is now equal to the US..
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 01:54 PM
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I think GTECH is going to be the only saving grace, assuming it works on CVT.

I am ordering mine tomorrow. the Canadian dollar is now equal to the US..
I just placed my order for one with the Canadian dollar doing so well. GTECH Pro RR $279 + Free Shipping... ! Hopefully this will give us more consistent results while testing our cars. Currently my car is stock, but with the US prices, I'll be ordering a few more parts for the car very soon.
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 03:32 PM
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GTECH is in no way, shape, or form consistant.

Consistant GTECH is an oxymoron...

.... like military intelligence.
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 05:20 PM
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True enough...Guess consistent wasn't the best word. I would imagine if there were a few of us using one, those result could be compared.
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 07:42 AM
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True enough...Guess consistent wasn't the best word. I would imagine if there were a few of us using one, those result could be compared.
What if Evosoul is using his wrong and you're using yours correctly? Those things are affected by the angle you position it at, slight elevation/delevation of the road surface, etc. When I used an older Gtech on my car, I couldn't even get it to be consistent from one run to the next. Granted, I'm sure the technology has improved, but still.

There will never be good numbers to compare. The only way would be to get a stock car and a modified car (same transmission) and run them on the same day on the same dyno, one after another. And they'd have to be run the same way (same gear, same driver, etc.). And that will probably never happen.

Originally Posted by jmoz
115-120 cvt
120-125 5sp.
Obviously you cant really compare different dyno's but in general your looking at about a 15%-20% loss (152*.82=124.64) And with the addition of bolt-ons you wont really see a large peek hp increase but rather more power through out.
While Jake's stock lancer was making 80-90hp through 4XXXrpm's Serious' may have been putting down 90-100 in the same range, this is typical of a lot of bolt-ons, you wont see much change in peek hp, but you will notice the difference in acceleration.
Since Jake's car is modded, did you just have the wrong name?

Also, the only runs I'd consider comparing are the two DynoJet runs. Even though the trannies are different, at least they're the same type of dyno...

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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Blacksheepdj
What if Evosoul is using his wrong and you're using yours correctly? Those things are affected by the angle you position it at, slight elevation/delevation of the road surface, etc. When I used an older Gtech on my car, I couldn't even get it to be consistent from one run to the next. Granted, I'm sure the technology has improved, but still.
actually the new gtechs calibrate after the first run. mine usually shows very consistent numbers after the first run.
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