that sucks, i suppose they wouldn't take kindly to a FMIC on a WRX/STi then... but i suppose your insurance company wouldn't need to know, right?

FMIC looks mean on a WRX/STi, too. i helped my friend put his on. lots of bumper modification in my basement and we had to take the sawzall to the front end of his car for a few mins.

 

If they don't know, they can't get mad. If I got a WRX I'd leave it stock for a while, no point in destroying a new warranty.

 

very true. i checked out the link to the WRX TR and that thing is sick. awesome price for an awesome car.

i'm scared to dyno my lancer... though getting the piggyback tuned would probably be the best cash i could spend on the thing aside from FI.

 

wow this sucks monkey *****! i never knew that our lancer is goin to be like this.... I wonder wat will Rock say? Damn I hope RRM wont get bankrupt cause now we know our Lancer wont go fast at all with just Bolt-Ons or watever Mods we put in

 

I doubt this will affect RRM as this has been known for years.

 

ok amby i don't get you. The dyno shows roughly 15% less than a dynojet right? You have to understand the nature of dyno's and how they work. really if you used a dynojet or a mustang dyno, your numbers would be a lot different.

Not arguing the resluts arent great but i don't think ur dyno is an accurate representation of your power.

Like i said i dynoed about 100whp with simple mods and im an automatic.

I'm just getting annoyed at all this chatter about the dammed dyno you did. Everyone is going to go ape **** cuz u had a crap dyno in canada.

 

thank you kungfugirl

 

Oh Jesus. Everyone's a dyno expert now.

Amby got 87whp. Not because it was a crappy Canada dyno. Because that's what Lancers run on Mustang dynoes.

kungfugirl ran 100whp on a DynoJet.

WHO CARES? This is amby's thread about his experience. If half the Lancer General posters happen to go apesh*t about it, then it's because they don't know what they're talking about.

kungfugirl, by posting to try and talk down to amby, you made it worse by throwing out more bad info.

Just let it go. Dyno results mean nothing. Period.

 

Ok I'll address that since it's getting ridiculous. NOTHING WAS WRONG WITH THE DYNO! Right after I did my run a ralliart put down 130 whp, which is exactly what you'd expect on a dynamometer. Now then, let's use some basic logic. If the dyno after me was right, and nothing was changed from my dyno to his dyno, shouldn't my dyno also be right? It is right that a dynamometer reads quite a bit lower than a dynojet. Doing the conversion using a 15% deviation this means I would put down somewhere around 102 whp on a dynojet. Where I am also plays a role, my car is already down on power because of my altitude.
Now I'm sure people will continue to come up with excuses as per why I'm not making mad power with just bolt ons on an economy car. They'll say my car is broken, the dyno is broken or I'm lying (all possibilities I suppose) but when my results match Doug's, it really starts to make the case that these cars are simply not mod friendly. Of course Doug and I might have just gotten the secret, underpowered lancers, everyone else could be making 150 whp with just an intake and exhaust.

 

i made up my mind time to part out my lancer mod or ill just wait for the Lancer Ralliart 08

 

You are absolutely right. This has been proven time and time again- with you, blacksheep, lanceradam and I only put down 95whp stock on a dynojet. People just don't want to accept the fact that their hard earned cash going towards a shiny exhaust, red intake etc. doesn't do anything but make it sound different and makes the lancer more aesthetically pleasing.

 

all im saying is instead of everyone going around sensationalizing the whole 87whp thing, you should make sure to let people know who don't know of the altitude and different dyno technologies.

I am not talking down to amby. talking down to amby would be saying "amby ur stupid cuz ur dyno balah balh" im not calling anyone names, nor doubting his intelligence but rather his explanation or lack there of, for his dyno results. I am not trying to start anything, but i have several pms regarding the 87whp thing, why i have 100 etc. It needs to be discussed openly that a dynojet, which is likely more acurate on our cars, do to several reasons not worth my time to explain. Just stop scaring the crap out of newbs lol.

I think fuys like melaz have done some good things, adding 100whp to a friggin outdated econo box is awsome. When a wrx wants to play on the freeway i play now. When i turn, my car friggin turns and does it well. I have spent about 5 grand, and u know what i have learned alot and i LOVE cruisin around in my POS. It's a lot of fun. There is another side to the coin, and it needs to be discussed. There are guys who turbo the mirage, do it right and make 300hp. Guys like omar spent some cash and have a 300whp lancer. This car is worth some love, its worth ur time if u want to have some fun. To a newb, 87whp is discouraging, cuz they don't understand what they are looking at. It's like looking at a cashflow statement without understanding anything about accounting. It's just silly, and here on evom we should support actual info with good facts to help other make decisions, not sensationalized implusive things that discourage and berate a car.

 

this is weird though how come i can keep up with a modified ralliart with my regular lancer with my mods???

 

But bro, If I knew this info 5 years ago, I probably would have still bought useless mods because of being young and a newb. If this thread can make one person think twice about going down the n/a route and just saving for something useful- I think it's very helpful thread.

 

I do agree that really NA (non turbo) is not worth it. You will pay 5 grand for 25whp if ur lucky

Turbo is another story. My car is straight up a bamf, people love it, i love the sound, the ride, the power, the look. I think there are some strong points for its price point. I only paid 7000 for it and its paid of now, and it has 75whp more than when i bought it.

Of course i paid a fraction of what most pay for turbo and i have upgraded along the way, but its worth it.