STOP TEASING and post pics of your car already!!!!

 

I explained why the results are low (including altitude and such) so the info is there if people want it. Also, as I have said over and over again, the dyno is accurate! What is so hard about that concept? A dynojet is a completely different kind of dyno, some people think it's better (generally import guys) while some people think it's worse (generally muscle car guys). What's important here isn't the raw number, it's the fact that with 5 grand of mods I'm only 5 hp up from a lancer with an intake and I'm 3 ft-lbs of torque down.
Defcon, the reason you can keep up with a ralliart is because whoever is driving that ralliart can drive worth crap.

 

was there another lancer totally stock with you dynoing? The stock wtq at the crank i beleive is 130?

 

No, the only other lancers there were a ralliart with an intake and an axleback exhaust and a lancer with an intake. Realistically the intake won't have made a massive difference.

 

Kungfu- What do you think you are putting down at the wheels? You seem so flabbergasted that he is making this much power... What did you expect??? You know your not making 250whp+ even with the turbo, right??

 

No kidding, it seems like there's two groups of people here: one group is composed of people who either knew I'd put down numbers like this or are astonished but accept it while the other group is composed of people who just don't want to face facts (no offense intended to anyone). Now I know why companies don't post up dynos, no matter what you do there will always be people who just think it's wrong. Granted some of the points are valid (like altitude) but I don't think they're sufficient enough to make the results completely useless.

 

I'm not retarded im probably at 165whp or so, perhaps a slight amount more.

I had stated earlier i know im making more power which i stated had a maximum of +75whp and im not even that optimistic.

Your results can't be pushed aside as if they don't count, i think people need a reality check with there car. I think for a mustang dyno this is low. I have a friend with a lancer here in socal, and it mustang dynoed close to 107 whp with similar mods to you, but he didnt have high compression, but had the rrm pulley. The difference is he had a regrind from crower and tuned with an emanage. You would be suprised the techniques that are used. this community is by far the most sheltered, which can be attributed partially to RRM's dominance (no knock, but they have monopoly here.)

 

Couldn't agree more. Even if you were putting 110whp down with all of your mods, I still don't see how that justifies 5 grand.

 

I've heard an expression that for every 1 hp increase, you should expect to pay about 100$, which is fine. In my case though it was 1 hp for every 1000$ which is nuts. Again, it's not the raw number that's upsetting, it's the comparison to the other lancer that really shows the lack of response from this motor.

 

ambystom01 - I think I already know the answer to this, but you mentioned that you are at a higher altitude, correct? The reason I ask is because I am curious as to what the stock Lancer puts down at the higher altitudes.

Anyway, on the subject of NA mods - there are some that you can get while still on route to the turbo if you have some extra funds sitting around. From what I have been reading, a cat-back exhaust is a good investment if you have a turbo and the Piggybacks can be reflashed by RRM for the turbo map from the NA map. The RRM lightweight pulley is also something that helps in both applications. So there you go, for about $1000 you have most of the high return NA bolt-ons that also apply well under a turbo installation.

 

I'm at altitude so my power suffers (especially true since I'm NA). I already have an exhaust so that's out. A piggyback would be useful for leaning out the top end and would certainly net more power. A pulley doesn't add power, it simply allows the motor to rev more freely.

 

catback
high flow cat
downpipe
header (depending on kit style)
tb
intake mani (4g93)
fuel rail
wideband
afc/openecu/emanage/megasquirt (2 preferably)
pully (does next to nothign)

 

i agree with this car, but as a general rule pulleys or pulley kits, underdrive pullys do a lot for a cars power.

 

I can't see a lightweight pulley making power persay, underdrive pulley yes, but lightweight pulley, no.
I already have a catback.
A high flow cat would help in terms of top end power but it would just hurt my torque even more, same goes for the downpipe.
I have a header.
Have a tb.
Have an IM.
Fuel rail doesn't add power and I have one.
Wideband doesn't add power but it obviously needed for tuning.
I can see a piggyback making more power. How much I don't know.

 

Oh, im just saying the mods u can do that work with turbo, with turbo backpressure is much less of an issue of keeping but rather getting rid of most of it.