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Old May 6, 2008 | 06:41 PM
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Those numbers aren't supported nor is simply adding them up the right way to do it. People claimed that my old lancer would have 150 hp because of numbers thrown out there by various entities yet I didn't even break 90 whp.
i understand that im not adding them up right or whatever thats why im asking you guys. otherwise why buy an intake exhaust pully piggy headers and other stuff? to make nothing? obviously you are going to gain some power right?
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Old May 6, 2008 | 06:42 PM
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where did i read that the n/a lancer is capable of 200 hp with bolt ons? and around 280 whp with forced induction. i think rock from rrm said it once when they first got the lancer
That's a vendor telling you that with parts they make the car they specialize in is capable of hitting a number that a lot of people strive for/desire. Read the link in my sig (bolt-ons one) and you'll see why I take everything people say with a grain of salt.
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Old May 6, 2008 | 06:43 PM
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i now think... and think it may b possible without turbos and what not as i said before...

injen catback- ill say 13-15 hp gains
injen cai- 10-11 hp
rrm headers bout 10
pully lighten up the restriction a bit
cf hood. (this is gettin expensive) for weight
pulstar spark plugs have been known to add bout 8-10 but also arent fully reliable and work on certain cars well. as we know from reading other threads about them
with all that u will have close? id assume
and defnitly more tg then the civic si sitting at about 134

im trying to think of more performance parts to help. anything im missing? MINUS turbo, or nos, or something like that
Again, where are those numbers coming from? I went through this exact thing with my 2003 lancer and that's why I drive a WRX now.
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Old May 6, 2008 | 06:45 PM
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i understand that im not adding them up right or whatever thats why im asking you guys. otherwise why buy an intake exhaust pully piggy headers and other stuff? to make nothing? obviously you are going to gain some power right?
Why do people buy BOVs for their evos or STIs? Why do people buy intakes that suck in hotter air than the stock system? Why do people slam their car with coilovers that have springs that are way too stiff and shocks that are poorly designed? Why do people slap on CF hoods that weigh more than the stock aluminum hood? Just because a part exists and people use it does not mean it does anything.
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Old May 6, 2008 | 06:45 PM
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Old May 6, 2008 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by slaker138
i now think... and think it may b possible without turbos and what not as i said before...

injen catback- ill say 13-15 hp gains
injen cai- 10-11 hp
rrm headers bout 10
pully lighten up the restriction a bit
cf hood. (this is gettin expensive) for weight
pulstar spark plugs have been known to add bout 8-10 but also arent fully reliable and work on certain cars well. as we know from reading other threads about them
with all that u will have close? id assume
and defnitly more tg then the civic si sitting at about 134

im trying to think of more performance parts to help. anything im missing? MINUS turbo, or nos, or something like that
thats what im talkin about. see. thanks bro thats what i want to hear. someone triyng to figure it out and help. and say whats possible and what not. if your somwhere close to niagara falls you have a from me
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Old May 6, 2008 | 06:48 PM
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simply add stickers onto ur car and you'll have no problem beating the Si.. maybe you'll even beat t he evo x
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Old May 6, 2008 | 06:48 PM
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So you just want lies or unsupported claims, interesting....
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Old May 6, 2008 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
Why do people buy BOVs for their evos or STIs? Why do people buy intakes that suck in hotter air than the stock system? Why do people slam their car with coilovers that have springs that are way too stiff and shocks that are poorly designed? Why do people slap on CF hoods that weigh more than the stock aluminum hood? Just because a part exists and people use it does not mean it does anything.
its called Tunning . i still cant believe that in Bulgaria (my country) they can make a 400 whp fiat punto 1992 or sumting like that and we cant make an 152 car to 180 hp with bolt ons
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Old May 6, 2008 | 06:51 PM
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i remember readin that post and was glad when i traded in mine.....i guess when pickin up a lancer i knew what kind of car it is just like the OP, but after a while you need to get some pep....only mods i did have was intake and exhaust, and honestly i can say it was a very very small improvement, atleast it felt so , could just be from hearing all the exhaust make you think its faster.

but def take heed to that post..than again, maybe a tune would've helped
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Old May 6, 2008 | 06:52 PM
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he might win... it's a k series after all... i mean it's the wack k series... but it's a k none the less... ask for a car and brake... u'll be fine just drive ur butt off
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Old May 6, 2008 | 06:52 PM
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im not saying i want lies. i just want info. basicly your telling me that all aftermarket parts dont do anything. if they do tell me what
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Old May 6, 2008 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Nankov
its called Tunning . i still cant believe that in Bulgaria (my country) they can make a 400 whp fiat punto 1992 or sumting like that and we cant make an 152 car to 180 hp with bolt ons
Lol, you really need to do some research since none of those things are tuning, they're destroying a perfectly good car. Tuning is one thing, ricing is something completely different (and all the things I listed are rice).
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Old May 6, 2008 | 06:54 PM
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Be sure your car is as light as possible for the race...remove the spare tire and relevant parts, that is ~40 lbs gone. Be sure your tank is only about 1/4 full, and put on as many worthy power bolt-ons as you can. Be safe and GL.
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Old May 6, 2008 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Nankov
im not saying i want lies. i just want info. basicly your telling me that all aftermarket parts dont do anything. if they do tell me what
No I'm saying some do and some don't, you actually need to see real tests with real data to decide what mods are good and what mods are bad. There are plenty of dynos out there but unfortunately most people just get a number and then assign random factors to it to see what they "gained". They don't do a comparison dyno at the time but instead take a dyno done at a different time and a different place (no doubt one that is lower than what they saw) and say "oh I installed X mod and gained Y HP" which is wrong. The exact same thing happened with the old lancer. People would arbitrarily assign numbers and the lie would be perpetuated ever after as no one seemed to catch on to the shody way that it was gathered. When I dynoed my car there was another close to stock lancer there and that's what the comparison was done to since it accounted for dyno variability and environmental conditions. I gained 5 hp and lost torque with every bolt-on available and high comp pistons. I spent thousands to get there and ended up with an ever so slightly more powerful vehicle. If you want that, go ahead and believe the numbers that people just throw out there for everyone to see. If you actually want to spend your money wisely, wait for the data. From what I've gathered, people are not gaining much with bolt-ons. This same problem is found in all car circles and what separates the tuners from the ricers is the ability to see past it.

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