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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 09:04 PM
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So any update on this?
If this is possible and inexpesive then I would be interested in doing it. The only thing I would change are the required parts to have it bolt up right. I'm guessing front fenders, quarter panels, rear doors, tail lights, rear/front bumper, wheel hubs, sideskirts, and hood. There may be more but that's what I could think of from the top of my head.
If you do end up doing this swap then start a new thread and give us tons of pics with info on what parts you need, where you got them, and how much everything cost you.
If you don't do it then I may have to tackle this project in the summer.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 09:10 PM
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You're forgetting the rear quarter panels which will add thousands to the cost since you'll need custom work. Wheel hubs won't fit, at least I'm pretty damn sure they won't, you would need to buy new rims to properly fit. To make it all work you'd want new front and rear brakes too since it would look pretty silly to have the looks of an Evo with drums in the rear. Seriously, I don't understand trying to look like an Evo minus what makes an Evo awesome when there are wicked body mods for the Lancer already out there. Hell, get an RMR Type 1 lip, some nice rims and blacked out headlights and you have a damn fine car that looks different without crossing to the "point and laugh while driving by" line.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 09:44 PM
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rear quarters wont cost you thousands and what custom work? I posted the link of min which is getting done. Quarters I paid $600 for the pair and they replace the lancer quarters... cut and weld deal.
Body work is comming in under a grand for both sides without paint.

The front evo hubs wont work.

1 you need evo lower control arms
2. if you get those then you get ****ed like me where the axle splines are to small for the evo hubs.
So now I'm either Frankensteining some evo cups to the ends of the lancer axles or trying out the 2g cups to see if they work.

I wouldn't say its inexpensive but sure as hell cheaper then buying an evo also my insurance is $600 less lol.

Any to the guy who said, about it being covered as a lancer you are right, but its a risk I'll take, they either cover it or the dont, worst case the dont and I part out what I can and either get another shell and swap everything over or start on something new. I've also seen many times insurance cover aftermarket accessories as long as you have receipts and pictures. But lets not get off topic here about insurance.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 09:51 PM
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if your buying the whole conversion outright your looking at roughly..

front bumper $300- 500
front rad support $150
fenders(pair) $300
headlights $300-$900
taillights $80-$300
Hood $250-$400
Quarter panels (each) $300 to $600
rear bumper $250 to $700
side skirts $200 to $350
Wing $250
Rear doors (each) $250 to $600
Evo control arms (pair)$300
evo brakes $500 to $750 for everything
front evo suspension $200

that doesn't include any interior gauge cluster, wheel, seats, ect.
Or the drivetrain.
Like I said not what I would call inexpensive.

Also to the guy who said we was getting evo seats for $300 you probably got the cloth ones. I'd like to see you get a set of the evo IX or SSL seats for that price. Same goes for the mr headlights, hopefully you get them, I remember a guy came on the board and put em up for $350, two guys ended up paying him and he took off with both there money. Be careful, if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 09:52 PM
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Most would call cutting, welding and painting custom work. The rear quarter panels are not a simple bolt-on part, they need modification to fit.
At the end of the day though, you're not driving an Evo, you're driving a Lancer with a body kit. People keep on saying "oh it's cheaper than an Evo", well sure because it's not an Evo.
Actually the worst case scenario is they deny you coverage outright, refuse to cover you any further and blacklist you for fraud.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by turbotime
if your buying the whole conversion outright your looking at roughly..

front bumper $300- 500
front rad support $150
fenders(pair) $300
headlights $300-$900
taillights $80-$300
Hood $250-$400
Quarter panels (each) $300 to $600
rear bumper $250 to $700
side skirts $200 to $350
Wing $250
Rear doors (each) $250 to $600
Evo control arms (pair)$300
evo brakes $500 to $750 for everything
front evo suspension $200
That's not a conversion though, that's just a body kit. You still don't have the engine, the AWD, the full brakes, the full suspension, the interior, etc.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 10:02 PM
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Not to start an argument here but you going to say that a lancer with a full drivetrain conversion and exterior conversion wouldn't be considered an evo? what because of some supposed few extra thousand spot welds that make the evo chassis so much more ridged? Gime a break.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 10:12 PM
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And how many Lancers actually swap the AWD and the engine? I know of one and it isn't even running to my knowledge. So we have one person that did the drivetrain swap and they didn't do the exterior stuff. A Lancer with a swap is still a Lancer with a swap, it doesn't suddenly transform into an Evo and when you sell it, you can't legally say "oh it's an Evo" since the Vin numbers wouldn't match. On the chassis level, it's still a Lancer. Moreover, it would cost more to make a Lancer into an Evo than it would to just buy an Evo, including maintenance (swapped cars have horrible maintenance), insurance, fuel, etc.
Edit: How much would the full conversion cost anyways, if all you did was add the parts up like you did above? By my math you're already at 4180$ to 7500$ just to make the exterior match. You didn't include the cost of new rims to fit the new body or the extra parts like the rear suspension and the rear brakes. There's also the issue of labor and paint. With those integrated into the equation, you're likely looking at closer to 10000$ just to have an Evo-wannabe Lancer. You now need to factor in how much money it would cost to get the engine up to spec, the drivetrain, the interior, etc.

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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 10:21 PM
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You are correct, and I wasn't trying to imply it magically turns into a evo.
I was also not encouraging to do this if you plan to sell later for profit. You lose in the end regardless.
My costing is to the lower end of you math so I should have a lacnervo for around $10k with the drivetrain swap and everything to boot. I dont know how much money I will save in the long run, but I'm happy regardless.
Just trying to put it into perspective for others interested.

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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 10:23 PM
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I don't see a point in doing this period unless you have more money than sense and just want to look like an Evo. 10000$ for just looks is a ridiculous amount of money, hell that's a good down payment on a real Evo or a house.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 10:32 PM
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To each his own I guess. If you are patient the deals will come, Like I said, I'll be in around 10k all in exterior, interior and drivetrain.
Wheels you cant really count because most evo owners upgrade them anyway.

10k may be a real good downpayment for a real evo but I'm not interested in monthly payments + my $700 a month insurance. That alone is a good mortgage for a house.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 10:36 PM
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How are you at 10000$ for everything? All you've shown is the exterior and that alone comes to at least 5000$ if not the full 10000$ alone. The few people that have swapped in the 4G63 but maintained the FWD arrangement have been left with a roughly 10000$ bill and that doesn't include the AWD which will require a butt load of custom work. The other thing to consider, insurance is only cheaper if you don't tell your insurance broker. Well this is a real gamble since they could A. refuse to cover you in the case of an accident or B. completely drop your coverage and blacklist you.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 10:38 PM
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fearthisrc, since you like the STi , wouldnt it be easier to convert a base impreza into a STI???

I would like to see the lancer to evo conversion, but your gonna have to have a lot of luck when selling the car to make a profit.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by jebus27
fearthisrc, since you like the STi , wouldnt it be easier to convert a base impreza into a STI???

I would like to see the lancer to evo conversion, but your gonna have to have a lot of luck when selling the car to make a profit.
Hell even doing this would set you back close to 10000$. Check out the various people on NASIOC that done such a conversion, it's simply not cheap.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 10:45 PM
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I will be doing the engine install myself. Wont even be close to 10 grand lol. The rear install I have a few options, I know markjb or whoever is working on one approach, again done by himself. Again you go back to insurance... who said I wasn't telling my broker? I take pics and keep receipts. They ask I let them know car has been modified with new paint, body work lights ect.
I can if I wish let them know about the new engine but comon, how many hondas have swapped engines and there insurance doesn't deny their claim? Worst case they know about the engine and if I get into a wreck they dont cover it, big deal, I'll swap it out or sell it.

I didn't bother posting a thread here due to all the serious folk who dont want to see any risks taken or change made. Probably why markjbj you know who doesn't have a build thread. Just get cluttered with people saying you cant do this you can do that.
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