Well, I wouldn't go so far as to say most Honda people have more money then most Mitsu people. Look at the cars themselves. We, Mitsu people, have only one engine that's considered the most desirable and feasibly swappable, and its the 4G63T. The DSM engine is generally found in cars where it will do the most good, true their are older Mirages around and Colts with the swaps done, but its typically the best idea to leave it where you found it, especially if its in a 1G AWD and you are trying to go fast at the strip. DSMs are cheap and plentiful, so not much use pulling their engines - Mitsu gave us the car and the engine without jipping us like the 240SX and Si's.

For everybody else with the oppsite orientation, your only choice is to pull a motor from a wrecked Evo. A car that costs a lot more then a Civic or Syliva and were made in a lot less numbers, and were unavilable in this country up until...well you know. The typcial turbo AWD Mitsu costs a bit more to own then the typical N/a Honda. There were like a million or so B16A's made, Evos generally 5000 a year. The conditions for Honda type swappage just aren't there. The Syliva is just so right because it is a direct swap no matter which one you have.

 

Oh which reminds me (sorry for the OT) but i was at mitsu today and a sales rep told me theres only like 12 Evos for sale at dealerships in the whole country (but there will be more eventually, just at the time theres 12), not including used.. Is this correct

 

thats bs... there are 2 rs sitting at my local dealer. And they should be getting the new model in soon as well.

 

yeah he said theyre getting an MR in next week. but i think he just meant like as of today or maybe a few days ago. they got one here too.

 

total bs ... sales rep is retard ... or do you mean the ix ??

 

no clue, i said i wanted the evo, and he popped out with "hey did you know theres only 12 of those left in the country right now?"
So I was like "the evo?"
and he said "yeah for sale that is, theres only 12"
and i know hes BSing cause he said they were skipping over the 9 and coming out with just another 8, then they'll come out with the 10.
I was just verifying that.

 

wow ... if thats true then all them evos i see at the dealer i drive by everyday must be an illusion lol maybe he just wanted to make you buy one since theres only 12 left

 

I'm speaking image-wise from the previous gen civics and various other H&A products from the mid to late 90's. When those cars were a dominant marketing force on the streets, people would bling or soup it up to no end from crappy to OMG trailer queen.


http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/fe...2scc_uscc2_05/

Long ago, I had an agrument against some cincy car crew on this board (can't find the thread now . . . seen it last year). In the 2nd annual SCC's Ultimate Street Car (Mar 03), there was an ITR that had approx 80 grand (according to those cronies and SCC writers . . . the owner could be lying up his **** to look big amongst his crew) worth of mods from eye candy to performnce mods. Cronies of the ITR owner started to defend their bro whose car did very poorly amongst the bigger and badder cars. I know this case isn't the norm, but I do know there are more of those guys out there in the US than Mitsu crew. Also, on page 71, the ITR with NOS and TC was only able to manage a paltry 13.25 in the 1/4 . . . I'm just waiting for those cincy cronies come out of the woodworks to start circling the wagon against me.

Of course, H&A changed their marketing ploy from the previous gen civic and lost tons of the young buyer . . . now, it belongs to the Scion. Hell, recently, one of the H&A designers admitted that they have wronged the design on the current civic and will try to woo back those lost buyers w/ a new impending civic.


Otherwise, I'm going OT. Kudos to the guy for the swap for being one of the super rare people actually pulled the project to the finishline. On the internet, there are so many people hyping themselves to failure in order to look better amongst his peers.

 

Wasn't zlancer supposed to do this too? Yes, I do have plenty of respect for him. Did he quit the process, because it was too daunting of a task in both time and money?

 

if the transmission had the gears cut to match the ratios of evo's then this thing would probably be able to pull on stock evo's at speeds over 60mph cause its FWD and hass far less tranny power loss(think srt-4)...now that would be interesting to test out...*hint hint*

 

lol yeah. another reason to stay fwd, now you can whoop on srt4s

 

In that sense, I agree with you. The Honda scene does have a lot more street cred, and the do have a "higher" profile then Mitsubishi. I remember that car, and I think I voted for it, just to see how it would do. I think it was overhyped and may not have had 80 grand in it, now that all is said and done. But not being able to use slicks on the strip is a big disadvantage for a FWD in that contest.

But still, a Type R is a Type R. It is more costly, but I doubt we will ever see someone dump 80K into a Mirage Coupe LS. Into an Evo or VR-4? Maybe.

 

I have seen Supra guys dumping that much money. Mirage owners have a breaking point up to 10 grand (everything from paint to performance mods or swaps); anything beyond it, it's up to people in Puerto Rico. In the latter case, I can not ever hope to verify their real expense.

Again, mirage owners in the US are relatively poor, so they have sense enough to move into another car after landing a big payday job than dreaming putting so much money into it. Amongst us, some upgraded to DSM, 3kGT, BMWs, Lexus, slew of H&A or other similar competitors. For those stayed w/ the 4g mirage, they get a new transplant and have fun w/o all the headaches for the 5g mirages. Also, there is a curse amongst us, 5g mirages . . . almost every year, a few of us by ill random luck get our car totalled. eventually, all 5g miraged would become rare as seeing Honda Del Sols, excluding the possibility of platoons of them in Cali.

Besides, it doesn't take too much for the Evo to go fast; if people can get past the getrag transmission in the 3kGT VR4, it can go fast too to a certain extent.

 

Hey guys, this is Kareem posting under mayra's account (I pretty much hijacked it from her, lol). I do have the level ten shiftronic kit which costed me roughly $800 all said and done. All it does is piggybacks a few wires on the ECU and has it's own brain to help lock the TQ Converter for a true "shifting" feel. Only downside is mounting the shifter box, I had to jerry rig a metal frame to hold it up to the left of the regular shifter like almost right under my knee. It works awesome and I have no intention of selling it because I could NEVER go back to letting the car shift for me. But I will tell u guys this, Level Ten will tell you they dont make it for the lancer but if you ask for the 1.8l mirage kit it WILL work with the 02-03 lancer. Some wiring might be a bit different but it isnt anything that you cant figure out from the mitsu wiring diagram.

 

Did you work on the car, illuminatus, or have it done? The ONLY problem I have if you did, is that everyone is telling you congratulations on a good job...I hope they mean good job on having it done...not doing it...because, well, you didn't actually DO it.

I like it, though, to be original!