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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 08:38 AM
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i've seen a couple of these in the Central Wisconsin area where i live. They look pretty nice in real life.....dont know how it drives but it is pretty nice. not sure of the price tag though? any one know?
You've seen the base model Pontiac Solstice, which looks similar. $20,500 starting price, $24-26,000 loaded.
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 08:38 AM
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Thats a nice looking honda... im mean saturn
Because Honda invented the convertible roadster
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by WestSideBilly
Why not? Solid chassis, good suspension, plenty of rubber - it has everything it needs to handle well. The base Solstice handles competitively with the MX5, which by most measures is a very good handling car.

I agree, it's ugly, but it will be fast and a close match to the S2000.
Last time I saw comparisons between Solstice and MX-5, the MX-5 was whooping it in almost everything. And that's not strange since it's over 300lbs lighter.

The turbo Sky and Honda might have similar performance though even though I would still expect the S2K to be better around auto-X track. But with road course it might not be the case... I guess we'll wait and see.
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 08:50 AM
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Last time I saw comparisons between Solstice and MX-5, the MX-5 was whooping it in almost everything. And that's not strange since it's over 300lbs lighter.
That was the base models though. It will be more interesting to see how the mazdaspeed mx-5 and soltice GXP line up.
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 08:51 AM
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Amazing what adding a bit of lightness can do for you.


Frankly, if GM had used a normal size wheel/tire combo on the Solstice, the performance would be much closer.
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SoR
LOL
Dude, Porsche Boxter *IS* a chick car.
Comon Bro if your going to TRY and call someone out at least read the rest of what they wrote.

If you would have done that you would have noticed that i WASNT talking about the Boxster i was talking about the Cayman S.

Nice try loser
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by slt
Because Honda invented the convertible roadster
No douch... because they look a like when there modded IMO

relax bro
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 07:14 PM
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i have seen this on the road and it looks pretty appealing. Look like a lower version of a C6, jus more affordable and has a good performance punch. Though 28 is starting the price. So ur lookin at 30k. Ill jus get an Evo
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by slt
Because Honda invented the convertible roadster
Oh and BTW Honda in no way invented the convertible roadster... I believe Porsche has a few years of making roadsters on them
Old Apr 22, 2006 | 04:14 PM
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You're kidding right? The styling of the s2000 is getting old? It's timeless.

The whole idea of the s2k is that you're supposed to scream to redline, that's the whole point. There's 9000 rpm to be used, not to look at. It doesn't have torque because you don't need torque unless you're drag racing.

And I'm sorry but that thing looks hideous, the lines of the car don't flow at all, and that chrome not to mention that its a saturn... Everyone I know that has owned a Saturn has had reliability problems. But hey, it has a turbo so it must be good
nothing is timeless except losing. if you want to win you change.

you don't need torque unless you're drag racing? you're dumb.
Old Apr 22, 2006 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by racerhead2
Also who knows what Honda will have by the time the S2k is phased out. Quicker, faster, prettier car than the Saturn?

Hopefully what ever is new or newer will have better visual style and performance than the older models. If not then what is the point? Everyone will be happy to drive their old cars.
or like with the nsx we can expect 10 more years of faithful service with only a .2 increase in displacement. oh wait... we already got the .2 liters... 10 more years... yay.
Old Apr 22, 2006 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by othreevo
Power isnt everything.

But apparently it is to you, so it's best that you stick to your econobox w/ a turbo and those awesome recaros, you don't understand the S2000 or let alone the idea of vehicle balance.
hahaha i'm glad i see so many s2ks in speed world challenge. i guess those guys know nothing about vehicle balance huh. they only make a tube frame ctsv cuz it's cool... not cuz it's lighter and that's the only way such a pig of a car can compete in such a series.

oh yeah... i'm glad that porsche knows nothing about chasis balance and relys on their 400hp AND 400 foot pounds flat 6 to power their gt3 cup and rsr cars that HAVE RACING SERIES DEDICATED TO THEM.

yeah... power doesn't mean ****... until you play with the big boys... then you shut the **** up.
Old Apr 22, 2006 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Grav
So a "long heritage" makes up for the fact that Lancers and Imprezas are cheap? By that logic, you should get a Camaro. It has a far longer "heritage" than either the STI or Evo. Your argument was "ok, my car is cheap, but it has heritage!" And my argument is.... who the %(*&#$% cares about heritage if the car is fast or not? The SRT-4 didn't have a nickel's worth of heritage, yet it is (admit it or not), a frighteningly fast automobile (for the money). This is what the Sky Redline is. Its cheaper than an Evo, STI, or S2000... yet has a HP/weight ratio competitive to said cars. It WILL be fast. Like it or not, its coming, and I for one am glad that its bringing down the cost of admission to that level of performance.
hahah you know what heritage means? it means it's been competing longer. i'd like to see any car beat a transam in a naturally aspirated race. oh wait... most of those races are dominated by 1le camaros... aww... bmw m3? i'm sorry in the end there really is no replacement for displacement. that said... the m3 will compete in its own way in its own races, they're just elsewhere. the m3 is a fanstastic car.

in fact the s2000 is a fantastic car too, in fact it's the only convertible i'd ever buy, and after i bought it i'd put a hard top on and a weld in roll bar. it's definitely one of the best handling cars, especially for the money. but i'm sorry... IT NEEDS POWER. just like THE NSX NEEDS POWER. it will never touch the upper echelons of racing, WHICH SUCKS. I WANT to see honda come up with something (production) that can hang with the big boys... honda is in f1 WHY can't they make something great for ALL OF US to enjoy, why can't they factory back something that we can touch with our two hands, that we can buy and race ourselves? god dammit you dont' even see s2ks in JGTC AND THAT'S THEIR OWN DAMN COUNTRY.

THAT'S what i wanna see... until then i will take the s2k's 20+ miles to the gallon when i beat it around town hard to 9k redline. unless the sky handles better (which i hope it does but highly doubt).

until then... calm down with the dori dori ranting and realise that a true race car has EVERYTHING. not just one or the other.
Old Apr 22, 2006 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by GPTourer
I beg to differ. But only because you consider Nissan to be building better quality cars. They rank lower in both JD Powers and Consumer Reports then Mitsu.
nissan has a low rating because before their recent success tehy were in the same shoes as mitsu is now. they're coming back up and mitsu will surely catch the lows that nissan dealt with back in the day.
Old Apr 22, 2006 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by x838nwy
^^I agree with you on that totally. There's nothing more annoying that a company putting on new turn signals and a new bumper and calling it a new model. I'm not one of those sad cases that has to drive the very newest, but it really bugg3rs the re-sale and makes parts that much more difficult to get. You end up having to scour the earth for parts of models made between March and July of a particular year or something.

The thing is though, they might have over-done it slightly with these two. The NSX certainly
IMO. They're great cars and there have been updates here and there and I'm sure a competent driver in an NSX can run several rings round the evo but the point is that you feel that Honda can do better, and really they should. The real master at this are Porsche. Ignore the silly codes and they're all 911's. The old ones are still extremely cool and yet the new ones look every bit the part. They should try to achieve a similar effect on these two (nsx and s2k)...
the irony in it all is that the s2000 has a crappy resale value... how does a 30k car drop to 20k faster than evos of the same year?



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