Evo X vs. Evo VIII and IX
the true driver find the pleasure in the performance car when he is driving it, no matter what.
If he doesnt, then its like this:
if you want to hear your favorite music, but you cant play on the piano wont matter you got the greatest piano, because you can't play on it , so you blame it on the piano? Mean while the piano player can play song on the not so great piano and you will recognize the song and even enjoy it.
I do understand preferences about cars , but if you have your own preferences then why you looking an other type and blame it it is not a driver car? Or not my taste?
If he doesnt, then its like this:
if you want to hear your favorite music, but you cant play on the piano wont matter you got the greatest piano, because you can't play on it , so you blame it on the piano? Mean while the piano player can play song on the not so great piano and you will recognize the song and even enjoy it.
I do understand preferences about cars , but if you have your own preferences then why you looking an other type and blame it it is not a driver car? Or not my taste?
This post should win an award.
yes a bit confusing. perhaps it should have been a bit more comma-friendly and a bit more consideration for past-present tense in a given sentence....
The X is definitely a better overall car. The 9 has a bit more feedback in the wheel and is a little faster in a straight line, but the X does pretty much everything else better and looks better while doing it. Anyone who doesn't think so is fooling themselves. The 9 fanboys will come around eventually. Hell, half of them that talked so much trash about the X when it first came out have gone out and bought one. That says all that needs to be said.
^ nah, from what i see, many who were ready to part with the VIII, the IX and the whole idea of a 'renegade, no frills, harsh, loud and rugged, road-rocket of a machine' ... went to either a G35, or a 328i ... in fact, 3 EvoM members i personally know from my neighborhood did that in the past few months... so not too many go from IX to X - cause like i said many pages ago - whenever u are truly ready to grow up from the IX, u dont go to an X, u truly grow up and go to a bmw
^ nah, from what i see, many who were ready to part with the VIII, the IX and the whole idea of a 'renegade, no frills, harsh, loud and rugged, road-rocket of a machine' ... went to either a G35, or a 328i ... in fact, 3 EvoM members i personally know from my neighborhood did that in the past few months... so not too many go from IX to X - cause like i said many pages ago - whenever u are truly ready to grow up from the IX, u dont go to an X, u truly grow up and go to a bmw
About the IX and the X , the X GSR as just as harsh and renegade then the IX MR or the VIII MR.
So really nothing softer there. Also read through thread and you can understand why people go for the X. Most of the IX owners biggest claim i hate the X.....
Or i dont like a way it looks... Those comments just flat out lame..
The Evo was never a pretty car lets face it. So we never brought them for look. Those comments reminds me when some one say: i hate or i dont like Jessica Simpson, i would never date with that girl... Mean while, if she would just even blink on him , he would **** his own pants.
Some times /not everyone/ if something out of reach "are ugly or i hate" ... I'm sure you see what i'm saying .
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I actually drove a 135 (twin turbo 3.0L in a 1 series) when I was deciding on the X and the X won hands down. The regular 3 series was out too...I'm sorry but I was not impressed with the BMW's for 10k more than the EVOX other than gas mileage. My brother has been a mechanic for BMW for the past 4 years and I'm un-impressed with what you get for the money. Wife has 07 G35 loaded and yeah it's nicer than the X, but it's not nearly the fun to drive everyday. EVO X is really easy to drive too compared to the older ones. My .02
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^ nah, from what i see, many who were ready to part with the VIII, the IX and the whole idea of a 'renegade, no frills, harsh, loud and rugged, road-rocket of a machine' ... went to either a G35, or a 328i ... in fact, 3 EvoM members i personally know from my neighborhood did that in the past few months... so not too many go from IX to X - cause like i said many pages ago - whenever u are truly ready to grow up from the IX, u dont go to an X, u truly grow up and go to a bmw
I thought about buying an EV0 9, and almost did at one point. BUT... as the years passed on, I began to lose interest in my STi for the same reason that I didn't buy the 9; as great of a performance machine as it is, it looks too ricey and "fast and the furious" for my tastes as I've gotten older and just doesn't do it for me anymore. The X looks more high end and sophisticated than the 9 does or the old STi, with a much better body to window ratio that gets rid of the "greenhouse" econo look of the CT9A. In addition to that, the profile and the curves of the car are also much cleaner and flow much better, with fender flares that actually integrate into the body well, rather than looking tac'd on.
Mitsu made it a design goal to make the car look more grown up, the magazines have all commented on the welcome change, and everyone that I know would agree. If you don't agree with this, then you are fooling yourself. Aside from all this, the performance is as good as ever, with great improvements in handling and a new engine that makes huge power gains from little mods. If you don't like the X, it's because you don't want to like it and the only reason for that is because you feel threatened by it whether you want to admit it or not. Hell, admitedly you haven't even driven one and yet you form an opinion as if you have first hand experience with the car. No offense, but that's pretty lame.
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^ yes i agree that not even having driven it, i already formed an opinion. but, my friend, first impressions are everything, just like with a girl. you either like her at first glance or not. and if you dont, u wont even approach her no matter what else.
i liked the VIII, way back when, when i was reading about it coming to the US in 2002. it was love at first sight. since that moment, i knew i would have it one day. unfortunately, no matter what cars I, or my wife had, the situation was never right for the Evo... till last year... so i got one of the last IX's made... and im still as excited as i was the day i saw it in the magazine in 2002.
With the X, it didnt appeal to me when i saw artist's renditions 2 years ago, and it still doesnt today. perhaps I am wrong, perhaps it is a better driving/riding car than the IX... i cant say for sure cause i nver drove the X. but i have no interest in even testdriving it, cause it just totally doesnt even appeal to me.
Yes, i further agree with u, about the profile, the curves and the "body to window ratio". but thats what made the IX stand out. for better or worse, it raised eyebrows and turned heads.
in my neighborhood, and in my parking lot garage, the Ix is what stands out, while the X, with all its curves and "21st century flow", would all but blend in with the endless, lame and overplayed ES/IS/GS's, the 3/5 series, and the G35/G37's. c
and then there is the other consideration - price. not to shift focus or topic from the design and the looks, but if the GSR with the SSS and navi is in the upper $30k's, well hey, today, u have a llllooootttt of choices in the upper $30's. and when people have all those choices, sometimes the prospect of owning a $40k 'mitsubishi 'makes u think twice...
and i wont even mention the fully loaded MR which is in the mid $40k's... we discussed that several pages ago
i liked the VIII, way back when, when i was reading about it coming to the US in 2002. it was love at first sight. since that moment, i knew i would have it one day. unfortunately, no matter what cars I, or my wife had, the situation was never right for the Evo... till last year... so i got one of the last IX's made... and im still as excited as i was the day i saw it in the magazine in 2002.
With the X, it didnt appeal to me when i saw artist's renditions 2 years ago, and it still doesnt today. perhaps I am wrong, perhaps it is a better driving/riding car than the IX... i cant say for sure cause i nver drove the X. but i have no interest in even testdriving it, cause it just totally doesnt even appeal to me.
Yes, i further agree with u, about the profile, the curves and the "body to window ratio". but thats what made the IX stand out. for better or worse, it raised eyebrows and turned heads.
in my neighborhood, and in my parking lot garage, the Ix is what stands out, while the X, with all its curves and "21st century flow", would all but blend in with the endless, lame and overplayed ES/IS/GS's, the 3/5 series, and the G35/G37's. c
and then there is the other consideration - price. not to shift focus or topic from the design and the looks, but if the GSR with the SSS and navi is in the upper $30k's, well hey, today, u have a llllooootttt of choices in the upper $30's. and when people have all those choices, sometimes the prospect of owning a $40k 'mitsubishi 'makes u think twice...
and i wont even mention the fully loaded MR which is in the mid $40k's... we discussed that several pages ago
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I guess I can see where you are coming from and as far as the price is concerned yes, there are a LOT of badass cars that are in the same price range as the X and perhaps that makes it tougher to rationalize for some people. However, I think that it's really all in how you look at it because the BASE GSR starts at 33k, which isn't far off from what the 9s started at. The only reason that the price can go up so much is because of options but hey, no one is putting a gun to your head and making you fully load your car.
I think it's great that the car actually HAS options now, before there wasn't really squat. Although I think it's strange that they would get rid of the leather option for the GSR when all previous model 9s had that as an option. That seems to go against the newfound refinement that the X offers but I know why they did it; they are trying to distance the GSR from the MR as much as possible to push the TC SST. Stupid decision, but at least that is supposed to changed for 09. Anyway, even in the price range that a fully equiped GSR or even MR competes in, the X still stands out as the best performance bargain with the highest potential as a platform for mods.
Sure, the 135i is much more luxurious and a hair faster in a straight line, but a X crushes it in handling and braking performance. Plus, the 135 looks like a chick car to me and I would never even consider buying one. On the same token, most people that would consider a 135i probably wouldn't consider a X either, so there you have it. However, these cars target very different audiences so the fact that they are in the same price range means little to nothing. Hell, apples costs about as much as oranges, but different peple have different tastes.
Perhaps not the best analogy but you get the point, which is that the EVO isn't trying to be the BMW, it's still very much "EVO." What it is doing is grabbing a bit wider audience now by offering a few more amenities and more respectable styling and that just makes good business sense IMO. Either way, it just pisses me off that the 8/9 fanboys make comments about how the X isn't an evo because it doesn't ahve a 4G63 or because it's heavier, and that's just ignorant and stupid. We X guys give the 9 credit, but you 9 guys don't give us ours and that's the reason that we don't get along.
I think it's great that the car actually HAS options now, before there wasn't really squat. Although I think it's strange that they would get rid of the leather option for the GSR when all previous model 9s had that as an option. That seems to go against the newfound refinement that the X offers but I know why they did it; they are trying to distance the GSR from the MR as much as possible to push the TC SST. Stupid decision, but at least that is supposed to changed for 09. Anyway, even in the price range that a fully equiped GSR or even MR competes in, the X still stands out as the best performance bargain with the highest potential as a platform for mods.
Sure, the 135i is much more luxurious and a hair faster in a straight line, but a X crushes it in handling and braking performance. Plus, the 135 looks like a chick car to me and I would never even consider buying one. On the same token, most people that would consider a 135i probably wouldn't consider a X either, so there you have it. However, these cars target very different audiences so the fact that they are in the same price range means little to nothing. Hell, apples costs about as much as oranges, but different peple have different tastes.
Perhaps not the best analogy but you get the point, which is that the EVO isn't trying to be the BMW, it's still very much "EVO." What it is doing is grabbing a bit wider audience now by offering a few more amenities and more respectable styling and that just makes good business sense IMO. Either way, it just pisses me off that the 8/9 fanboys make comments about how the X isn't an evo because it doesn't ahve a 4G63 or because it's heavier, and that's just ignorant and stupid. We X guys give the 9 credit, but you 9 guys don't give us ours and that's the reason that we don't get along.
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The X is definitely a better overall car. The 9 has a bit more feedback in the wheel and is a little faster in a straight line, but the X does pretty much everything else better and looks better while doing it. Anyone who doesn't think so is fooling themselves. The 9 fanboys will come around eventually. Hell, half of them that talked so much trash about the X when it first came out have gone out and bought one. That says all that needs to be said.
Im planning on buying an Evo X soon, but decided to do my homework before. Many Evo X owners I have talked to previously owned Evo 8 and 9's and moved on forward to buy the Evo X. From what ive been hearing from owners is the Evo X is the most powerful Evo yet. However, I can't say personally, I don't own one.
Forgive me because I'm a super newb, but I've been lurking for a while...
Seems like, for heavy mods and huge power (read: 650+ hp) the Evo VIII and Evo IX reign supreme, in that order. For light mods and moderate power, the Evo X seems to be slightly better.
From my standpoint, even though the different Evos will always be compared, they are different beasts. Evo VIII for a heavily modded drag car. Evo IX for a heavily modded track car. Evo X for a lightly to moderately modded street and track car.
Again, I'm sorry if I got anything wrong, but that is what it looks like from someone who isn't invested into any particular Evo. That said, when I'm in the market for an Evo (about a year and a half or two years from now), I'll probably be looking for an Evo X. I like the way it looks, and it sounds like the new engine takes wonderfully to light mods (intake, IC, UICP, LICP, turbo-back exhaust, high flow cat, tune). Different flavors for different people I guess?
Seems like, for heavy mods and huge power (read: 650+ hp) the Evo VIII and Evo IX reign supreme, in that order. For light mods and moderate power, the Evo X seems to be slightly better.
From my standpoint, even though the different Evos will always be compared, they are different beasts. Evo VIII for a heavily modded drag car. Evo IX for a heavily modded track car. Evo X for a lightly to moderately modded street and track car.
Again, I'm sorry if I got anything wrong, but that is what it looks like from someone who isn't invested into any particular Evo. That said, when I'm in the market for an Evo (about a year and a half or two years from now), I'll probably be looking for an Evo X. I like the way it looks, and it sounds like the new engine takes wonderfully to light mods (intake, IC, UICP, LICP, turbo-back exhaust, high flow cat, tune). Different flavors for different people I guess?
Forgive me because I'm a super newb, but I've been lurking for a while...
Seems like, for heavy mods and huge power (read: 650+ hp) the Evo VIII and Evo IX reign supreme, in that order. For light mods and moderate power, the Evo X seems to be slightly better.
From my standpoint, even though the different Evos will always be compared, they are different beasts. Evo VIII for a heavily modded drag car. Evo IX for a heavily modded track car. Evo X for a lightly to moderately modded street and track car.
Again, I'm sorry if I got anything wrong, but that is what it looks like from someone who isn't invested into any particular Evo. That said, when I'm in the market for an Evo (about a year and a half or two years from now), I'll probably be looking for an Evo X. I like the way it looks, and it sounds like the new engine takes wonderfully to light mods (intake, IC, UICP, LICP, turbo-back exhaust, high flow cat, tune). Different flavors for different people I guess?
Seems like, for heavy mods and huge power (read: 650+ hp) the Evo VIII and Evo IX reign supreme, in that order. For light mods and moderate power, the Evo X seems to be slightly better.
From my standpoint, even though the different Evos will always be compared, they are different beasts. Evo VIII for a heavily modded drag car. Evo IX for a heavily modded track car. Evo X for a lightly to moderately modded street and track car.
Again, I'm sorry if I got anything wrong, but that is what it looks like from someone who isn't invested into any particular Evo. That said, when I'm in the market for an Evo (about a year and a half or two years from now), I'll probably be looking for an Evo X. I like the way it looks, and it sounds like the new engine takes wonderfully to light mods (intake, IC, UICP, LICP, turbo-back exhaust, high flow cat, tune). Different flavors for different people I guess?
Im a super newbie as well, however I agree with you. Its all about opinion if you think the Evo X looks good. I think is because there are so many aftermarket parts, as well as a longer time for aftermarket to greatly advance, which is making the greater mods go to the Evo 8 and Evo 9, but it'll only be time before some serious mods come out for the Evo 10.
I too think the new Evo 10 is the best looking of the generation. I go for the sharp look instead of the bold look.
Forgive me because I'm a super newb, but I've been lurking for a while...
Seems like, for heavy mods and huge power (read: 650+ hp) the Evo VIII and Evo IX reign supreme, in that order. For light mods and moderate power, the Evo X seems to be slightly better.
From my standpoint, even though the different Evos will always be compared, they are different beasts. Evo VIII for a heavily modded drag car. Evo IX for a heavily modded track car. Evo X for a lightly to moderately modded street and track car.
Again, I'm sorry if I got anything wrong, but that is what it looks like from someone who isn't invested into any particular Evo. That said, when I'm in the market for an Evo (about a year and a half or two years from now), I'll probably be looking for an Evo X. I like the way it looks, and it sounds like the new engine takes wonderfully to light mods (intake, IC, UICP, LICP, turbo-back exhaust, high flow cat, tune). Different flavors for different people I guess?
Seems like, for heavy mods and huge power (read: 650+ hp) the Evo VIII and Evo IX reign supreme, in that order. For light mods and moderate power, the Evo X seems to be slightly better.
From my standpoint, even though the different Evos will always be compared, they are different beasts. Evo VIII for a heavily modded drag car. Evo IX for a heavily modded track car. Evo X for a lightly to moderately modded street and track car.
Again, I'm sorry if I got anything wrong, but that is what it looks like from someone who isn't invested into any particular Evo. That said, when I'm in the market for an Evo (about a year and a half or two years from now), I'll probably be looking for an Evo X. I like the way it looks, and it sounds like the new engine takes wonderfully to light mods (intake, IC, UICP, LICP, turbo-back exhaust, high flow cat, tune). Different flavors for different people I guess?
guys has it occurred to you that once you start talking "mods", whether basic or advanced, its no longer fair game and is no longer a meaningful comparison. now its like comparing apples and oranges. The only way to have fair and balanced comparisons is if you compare stock factory cars. Cause every single owner will mod the car to their liking, and you end up with 10000 diff variations and 10000 diff cars.
1) What if someone doesnt like having somethin like a 4" TBE exhaust which makes the car sound like a Russian farm tractor... he now doesnt make as much power as someone who doesnt care what the car sounds like.
2) what if someone doesnt have thousands to invest in mods?
3) what if someone is content with what the car already has from the factory?
4) what if someone doesnt want to void the warranty for the first few years?
the point is, you cannot compare mods, cause then every single car is gonna be diff... its not just gonna be about IX v. X anymore, now its gonna be IX v. IX, and, X v. X
so the way i see it, this whole Thread is only about factory stock models - IX vs. X, while i do submit that a cars' potential to be modded does figure into the equation, and might be a consideration for a perspective buyer.
1) What if someone doesnt like having somethin like a 4" TBE exhaust which makes the car sound like a Russian farm tractor... he now doesnt make as much power as someone who doesnt care what the car sounds like.
2) what if someone doesnt have thousands to invest in mods?
3) what if someone is content with what the car already has from the factory?
4) what if someone doesnt want to void the warranty for the first few years?
the point is, you cannot compare mods, cause then every single car is gonna be diff... its not just gonna be about IX v. X anymore, now its gonna be IX v. IX, and, X v. X
so the way i see it, this whole Thread is only about factory stock models - IX vs. X, while i do submit that a cars' potential to be modded does figure into the equation, and might be a consideration for a perspective buyer.






