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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 12:44 AM
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i love the look of the ten but 350hp would have had them selling like crazy! i mean come on guys , nissan moved up with the 370z
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 02:06 AM
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Old thread but I will resurrect. I must say a few things on this topic.

I've never owned a Evo 9,8,7 etc. But I have driven in one many times. Especially in stock form. My best friend from college and high school had an Evo 9 MR up until last fall where he got an 2012 Evo X. I drove his car many times. Road trips and city driving. I had an EM1( 99-00 Civic SI) and we would switch cars for a weeks at a time. Good times. Anyhow, anyone who researches my history will uncover that I am a new 2013 Evo X MR owner. Recently, traded in my FA5 ( 06-11 Civic SI sedan) for the Evo X MR. My cousin owns a 2011 335i Xdrive sedan which I have also driven extensively.

Here's my take on all vehicles. The Evo 9 MR is tons of fun. Loud, uncomfortable( I'M 6'2 and 220lbs on a lightweight day) sharp, raw, responsive and super boyish unfortunately. Since I've grown up 19-24 years old now, I no longer long for a loud and attention calling car. A car where I have kids in swapped b18c1(ACURA GSR Engine) civic hatchbacks revving to the engine begs for mercy at me at stop lights and highways. The 9 definitely make you feel like your in a cut and dry sports sedan made for the strip or for the track. Barely has the modern day driving essentials such as MP3/ AUX capability, Cruise control, NAV, sound deadening etc. The 9 felt like my 99 Civic SI as far as driver comfort was concerned. It was a drag in city driving never mind New York City traffic jams FML! My left calf muscle looked like a softball after 1 hour. All I could hear was the road, engine and small rocks hitting the fender. Not to mention the roughest ride on Earth. I liked the interior. I like how simple it was. I appreciate simple. Visibility was very good. Back seat space was ok as well. Not as good as my 08 Civic SI sedan space but, ok. ****...my civic SI had a sunroof, AUX, Nav, Crusie Control, softer third pedal, comfy seats and more trunk and rear leg room. Not to mention telescopic steering wheel FTW! The 9 MR was sexy looking though.

I've driven the sedan 335i x-drive and it was really a sports sedan for a more sophisticated man. The kind of car you can pick up a nice girl from the club, impress her and she never feels a bump. Smooth lines and immediate power from 1800RPM and on. Every feature was available. It's a BMW what else can you expect. Comfy yet supportive seats. Nice interior. Quiet yet attention grabbing. It was truly inspiring and unforgettable.

The Evo X. Then comes my boy with a 2012 MR. Premium package w/ NAV Black. Wow. Had the chance to drive the car for 4 long hours for a road trip to Boston. Amazing difference from the 9 MR. Most evidently the auto. Let me clear the air for those who bash the DCT SST. THIS TRANSMISSION IS A MANUAL TRANSMISSION INTERNALLY. How do I know this? Because every car I've ever owned was a traditional 5-6 speed manual car. I know the characteristics of a manual tranny. The back and fourth jerk when you flutter the pedal, the time taken to get into reverse, the awful burning clutch smell etc. Make no mistake this is an AUTOMATED MANUAL TRANSMISSION. It was very clear to me that the car was not a full automatic just by the way it shifted and how long it took to switch into reverse. The features integrated into the vehicle, the creature comforts made this car grow up. I felt like an adult with a desire for sports car. Not like a teenager that doesn't know how to drive. The police no longer looked at me strangely. Women were intrigued as was every other enthusiast with the car. Very sleek and discreet yet fulfilling.

The interior was much better. FOSGATE sound was a pounder. HID headlight and an aggressive fascia were prominent. The 335 was hating. Every sports cars we encountered respected it. It was an adult all by itself. I purchased my 2013 WW MR three weeks ago with no regrets. Great for DD and work. Evo X is definitely the greater practical choice. Who the ***** races everyday anyways? If its your only car you will be driving then go for the X. Its almost just as fast as the 9 with a whole lot more and not even close the same amount of BS that comes with 9. The ride isn't as harsh and the road noise is down. Not as low as the 335 but still not skin peeling as the 9. Enjoy!

-Proud 2013 EVO X wicked white Premium Package w/ NAV owner.


Coffee just poured out of my nose.

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I didn't know they made a 99-00 Si EM1 Sedan
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Sheer perfection. Still laughing.

Edit: Stopped back to read it again solely for the joy of it. "Women were intrigued" LOL!! "Every sports cars we encountered respected it." Cars wasn't a movie. Its' real life, I swear. Oh, my sides are hurting.

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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 09:06 AM
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i dont think anyone disagrees which car is more comfortable - the disagreements start with which car is the better drivers car, say for track and autox. According to scca STU, the 8/9s still seem to have their game
I'll gladly take a car thats half a second slower around a track and quarter mile to have dozen of new features. Mind you the car is 400lbs heavier and is automanual. With almost the same power and displacement this car is ONLY half a second slower. Imagine if it were 400 pounds lighter.. That's an amazing accomplishment by Mitsubishi Motors. And yea it may be faster on a track but like most people on this forum, racing isn't my job. So for me the Evo x is a better car overall. And I believe most auto reviews agree with that statement.

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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by tellme718
I'll gladly take a car thats half a second slower around a track and quarter mile to have dozen of new features. Mind you the car is 400lbs heavier and is automanual. With almost the same power and displacement this car is ONLY half a second slower. Imagine if it were 400 pounds lighter.. That's an amazing accomplishment by Mitsubishi Motors. And yea it may be faster on a track but like most people on this forum, racing isn't my job. So for me the Evo x is a better car overall. And I believe most auto reviews agree with that statement.
cool. actually the X is faster on the track. since you're pretty new to the forums you can do some more searching, especially the big 8/9 vs 10 thread
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by tellme718
I'll gladly take a car thats half a second slower around a track and quarter mile to have dozen of new features. Mind you the car is 400lbs heavier and is automanual. With almost the same power and displacement this car is ONLY half a second slower. Imagine if it were 400 pounds lighter.. That's an amazing accomplishment by Mitsubishi Motors. And yea it may be faster on a track but like most people on this forum, racing isn't my job.
Fascinating logic. I mean, citing track numbers in a vacuum, while claiming their lack of relevance in the real world.

So for me the Evo x is a better car overall.
Makes sense; the CT9A certainly was not available with an automatic, nor could you have opted for a lease, as you did with your X. Whether you realize it or not, the X was met with so much disdain from the Evolution community resulting in such dismal sales that its MY09 was nonexistent, and Mitsu began offering lease deals to move the cars off the lots.

And I believe most auto reviews agree with that statement.
Which statement?

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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by FJF


Coffee just poured out of my nose.

Sheer perfection. Still laughing.

Edit: Stopped back to read it again solely for the joy of it. "Women were intrigued" LOL!! "Every sports cars we encountered respected it." Cars wasn't a movie. Its' real life, I swear. Oh, my sides are hurting.
I know... hilarious. I also like how everyone with a X tries to talk about how much more mature it makes them seem.
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by blackenedwings
I know... hilarious. I also like how everyone with a X tries to talk about how much more mature it makes them seem.

Edmunds
"Today's Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution, technically known as the Lancer Evolution X, offers a level of performance typically found in European sports cars and sport sedans that cost considerably more. Only a few cars, in and outside of its class, can provide comparable engine power, precision handling and driving intensity. As a bonus, the Evo looks the part of a legitimate high-performance car as well."

Petrol blog
"‘fit for tomorrow’s market: more mature, more stylish, definitely more sophisticated, and more competent than ever. For the first time there is a hint of some established European brands in the Lancer Evolution X‘"

Motor Trend
"Like the new M3, the Evo X has matured into a great but more complicated road car that's still capable and rewarding on the track. Sure, much of the go-kart feel from the IX has been supplanted with NVH-reducing measures, airbags, and such modern amenities as a nav system, cruise control, and Bluetooth, but the core still remains-you simply have to dig deeper to unleash it."

Mature, is the word used for the new car. It's not only what I feel. This is only with a few minutes of searching. Not to mention countless professional video reviews online. Like I said before, these same articles state that the car has lost some of a sharpness or even feels duller do to its technological advancements that actually enhance handling. The car wasn't meant to be faster then the glorious 9 or 8 everyone seems to get so defensive about here lol. Very silly actually. I love the 9's and 8's. But, I would much rather have a 10 if I had to choose. I don't want to feel like I need to buy the usual 335 or the common s4 to know that I'm in a fast car while not having to lose all the amenities a 2012 honda civic comes with standard. You can argue all you want along with other members but the fact is that the car is better OVERALL when taking into account its daily livability features.

Hey if your thing is an 8/9 then more power to you. I don't feel the need to go through the hassle of an older vehicle that isn't well equipped and looks unrefined. Comfort,convenience and refinement are more important to me than having a " Drivers Car" BTW that term is subjective not an actual fact. If you want a drivers car, drive a BMW or a 911 Carrera and then we'll talk. Don't be ignorant and try to bash me on my opinion. It's worth just as much as yours.


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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 07:59 PM
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I've driven several VIII's that have been modified to certain extents, I have driven a few IX's fresh off the truck, and I have driven a few X's that had a few miles on them but were stock. Guess what? They all drive the same to me, the only difference are the seats, but I don't tend to imagine myself in a racecar either. Either way, I'm not seeing the luxurious difference between the generations. There isn't a balance with this style of car, whether it's a Mitzi or a Scooby Doo, it's the same story, regardless of generation.

This whole "Because Racecar" crap is ridiculous.
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by tellme718
Edmunds
"Today's Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution, technically known as the Lancer Evolution X, offers a level of performance typically found in European sports cars and sport sedans that cost considerably more. Only a few cars, in and outside of its class, can provide comparable engine power, precision handling and driving intensity. As a bonus, the Evo looks the part of a legitimate high-performance car as well."

Petrol blog
"‘fit for tomorrow’s market: more mature, more stylish, definitely more sophisticated, and more competent than ever. For the first time there is a hint of some established European brands in the Lancer Evolution X‘"

Motor Trend
"Like the new M3, the Evo X has matured into a great but more complicated road car that's still capable and rewarding on the track. Sure, much of the go-kart feel from the IX has been supplanted with NVH-reducing measures, airbags, and such modern amenities as a nav system, cruise control, and Bluetooth, but the core still remains-you simply have to dig deeper to unleash it."

Mature, is the word used for the new car. It's not only what I feel. This is only with a few minutes of searching. Not to mention countless professional video reviews online. Like I said before, these same articles state that the car has lost some of a sharpness or even feels duller do to its technological advancements that actually enhance handling. The car wasn't meant to be faster then the glorious 9 or 8 everyone seems to get so defensive about here lol. Very silly actually. I love the 9's and 8's. But, I would much rather have a 10 if I had to choose. I don't want to feel like I need to buy the usual 335 or the common s4 to know that I'm in a fast car while not having to lose all the amenities a 2012 honda civic comes with standard. You can argue all you want along with other members but the fact is that the car is better OVERALL when taking into account its daily livability features.

Hey if your thing is an 8/9 then more power to you. I don't feel the need to go through the hassle of an older vehicle that isn't well equipped and looks unrefined. Comfort,convenience and refinement are more important to me than having a " Drivers Car" BTW that term is subjective not an actual fact. If you want a drivers car, drive a BMW or a 911 Carrera and then we'll talk. Don't be ignorant and try to bash me on my opinion. It's worth just as much as yours.
Dude is only 24 if I skimmed correctly. No ball busting there, being an older dude myself occassionally catching looks for STILL rockin the hell out of my 03 Evo 8, I get the more mature desire in a car. I still will be put in the grave in the 03, regardless of what I buy next. Too fun, too many smiles. Still get mad respect for what I own and those in the know nod at. Ya heard?
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 10:02 PM
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Stick with the 9, best Evo other then the 8 same car.. No offense to all x owners but I personally don't like it look bad in the front but the back is ugly to me and there's a lot of thing I don't like about it but my personally wouldn't get a x but its all on you I would stick with the 9 so much potential power wise and look. Good luck with your choice
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Old Oct 25, 2012 | 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Ramen_Noodle
This whole "Because Racecar" crap is ridiculous.
Holy nutz,
Thank you for saying that.
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Old Oct 25, 2012 | 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Str8Pimp
Dude is only 24 if I skimmed correctly. No ball busting there, being an older dude myself occassionally catching looks for STILL rockin the hell out of my 03 Evo 8, I get the more mature desire in a car. I still will be put in the grave in the 03, regardless of what I buy next. Too fun, too many smiles. Still get mad respect for what I own and those in the know nod at. Ya heard?
What's my age have to do with anything? Should I also mention that I'm Hispanic? Maybe you can throw that in there to strengthen your argument. But more power to you. If you like the maturity of your evo 8 then great for you. That's your opinion and I'll respect it. I won't bash like some on this site.

Originally Posted by Rawger
Stick with the 9, best Evo other then the 8 same car.. No offense to all x owners but I personally don't like it look bad in the front but the back is ugly to me and there's a lot of thing I don't like about it but my personally wouldn't get a x but its all on you I would stick with the 9 so much potential power wise and look. Good luck with your choice
I didn't like it either actually. I t just grew on me eventually. Now I think it looks great. Very aggressive looking standing still.
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Old Oct 25, 2012 | 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by tellme718
If you want a drivers car, drive a BMW or a 911 Carrera and then we'll talk.
"Point an Evo down a challenging two-lane, and you'll understand why the Evo already won our Automobile of the Year award in 2004. Unlike many modern cars--even sports cars--which usually have too many layers of insulation between the road and the driver, the Evo has the most tangible, direct, and kinetic communication between the tarmac and your palms, your soles, and your backside of any production car this side of the Lotus Elise. Ignore the silly rear wing, and don't be fooled by the Evo's economy-sedan body: it's a real sports car. In fact, the Evo is more like a Porsche 911 than a Porsche 911. "

http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...cer_evolution/

You like reviews. They weren't talking about the Evo that comes with an automatic. BTW, which Carrera did you have in mind? Sure seems like all you know is a brand name. Like BMW. I wonder which word in the English language best describes such an individual?

Don't be ignorant and try to bash me on my opinion. It's worth just as much as yours.
Folks aren't laughing at you for having an opinion. They're laughing due to the bases for your opinion. Citing ignorance only adds to the irony. Too, keep in mind that our forum has been a bit dull lately. With that in mind, thanks.
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Old Oct 25, 2012 | 06:59 AM
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Not to threadjack, but to me even an IX RS is overly loaded with creature comforts and gadgets, so an X is a major step backwards. Not to mention ugly, IMHO.

BTW, I'm 42.

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Old Oct 25, 2012 | 07:16 AM
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Not to threadjack, but to me to IX RS is overly loaded with creature comforts and gadgets, so an X is a major step backwards. Not to mention ugly, IMHO.

BTW, I'm 42.
...but, but...are the women intrigued?

I'm 49.
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