It happens when too much," not a race car, to heavy and evo ix is a best etc " those bs comments happening. This thread basically the recycle bin.
Which is good.

 

I can't wait for the X vs. XI argument threads.

 

Lol

 

i thought the redline TA results for the X would have changed all that.. X more than proved itself. though we did have our own 9 killing TTA just last year.. the wonders a modded rear diff will do. 8/9s are running the show in STU and ASP at nationals still, even after the bump up in class.

Had a friend of mine who's a very good driver drive both at auto-x: mine had more power, some bushings, and rear diff but still (very) soft spring/strut combo, said he wasn't sure which was faster.. and actually that there was more power oversteer in my car, to the point where u couldn't just mash the gas coming out of a corner (i'm tire limited) without going sideways. he basically said that this generation is much more of a driver's car than the 10. his words, not mine, and he's completely foreign to the evo world. everyone just asks him to drive their cars so he can give feedback. so at the very least, some of what the 8/9 owners are saying about this aren't just fueled by bias

 

Whoa bro, calm down. No need to call people names, some of us are not as mature and sophisticated as you bro, or have been a member on Evo M for as long.

 

And even in rally in America alone the X is multiple champion is years... canada and the usa. Never mind the wrc grupe n Xs where the cars are the closest to stock etc.

 

Evo 8 and 9 can't beat the handling of an x period!

 

yup - here's a link you posted a while back i believe:

http://www.worldrallyranking.com/ran...&Tipo=3&Home=1

like you said before, all about money and purpose of the car.

lol

 

Just answer the question. Whats your source that proves the 8/9 is "DOMINATING" the X stock for stock. I'm sure noobs like myself and other would love for you to justify these statements. Seeing that you've been such a long time member you should know everything that has to do with Evo x Vs Evo 8/9.

And the X does .98/99 on the skid pad and the 9 does .92/93. Also regarded by some including Jeremy Clarkson as one of the best handling cars ever made.
I love the 8/9 though. I can't lie. I wish I had the money to have one.

 

And the best about that list is , a LOT less Evo X runs as evo IX. Mainly because it is a newer car, and still no other N4 can pass it only the IX. So if you put it on the plate how much more IX runs then X , the X does amazing to being a brand new engine platform and model. Easily just as fast or faster then a EvoIX. But that is not the point, the point is who ever say the IX is better daily driver is dillusional. When it comes to racing , nothing changed. The X just as capable as any other evo before .
So to sum it up, the X did the job. It is a better dd driver but a same race car as the earlier version. So it really evolved.
The drivers car opinion and stories are cute and all, but that is very subjective. And what is really a driver car??? Besides the BMW. LOL
For me every car is a driver car, i just need to find how the car communicates to me, and from there is all up to me, then a fun begins.

Rob

 

I didn't say stock for stock. You said that. You take everything too literal. I'm sorry I didn't spell it out for you, but I am speaking of modified examples. You obviously are talking about stock. Who tracks their car stock anyways?

The guys arguing against you were not talking about stock cars. You just keep quoting Motortrend and other mags. No one really cares about that. We don't care that you're 29 now and need to be seen as a grown up. The enthusiasts who were drawn to the Evo's original formula are about raw handling and performance. We own Evo's, we modify them. We make them into the cars that we want.

You can continue arguing, but the fastest time attack Evo's are CT9A chassis'.

 

this is getting ridiculous.. you are way too defensive in your new purchase man you need to chill. lmao no one cares about lateral g numbers or what jeremy clarkson has to say - and to be completely frank, starting from the first post you made on the issue you sounded incredibly immature and still of the fast and furious generation.. go do track days, autocross whatever - you'll see no one is talking about the magazine's lateral g - or whatever... they'll probably say nice car, have a short chat, and get on with the driving.

furthermore, the guy you are referring to never said stock for stock, and when he said dominating time attack he was probably referring to the cyberevo and the sierra sierra, 2 of the fastest in the world... which yes, they are dominant in this field. frankly though, i don't consider those cars evos anymore. look at nasa and scca for more realistic interpretations of the cars - to get an IDEA of what the cars can be like - but people need to stop living vicariously through the results of OTHER evo 8/9/10s and drive their cars themselves. if YOU, in YOUR 9/X can't beat someone else's X/9, who cares what the lateral g is or what clarkson says?

 

This thread makes me think of this:

 

The X is 5 years old now man - still relatively new, I guess, but it is at the end of its lifecycle - and it's not some revolutionary hybrid that took years to crack for tuning and power production. same theories for making power in the 9 stand for the X as well - more boost, flow, timing, whatever. It's not like shops got something they've never seen before and had no idea how to crack the car -
Same goes for suspension tuning - wider, more grip, stiffer suspension, better suspension geometry, etc. The X isn't tuned in either method in some new or unusual way that took years to crack and are just now getting the hang of it.

I agree though - anyone who says the IX is a better daily is delusional - no cruise control really kills me sometimes. But neither of these cars are exactly comfort vehicles, and actually with base X's there's very little improvement in terms of livability. Personally I'll take the trunk space and rear leg room in the CT9A over the X's cruise control and very short 5th gear, but that's just me.

In terms of driver's car, I wasn't even the one who brought it up. I just asked him what he thought, since he had driven both cars - he knows nothing about the evo world and hardly knows there is a debate between the two. He said that mine was more telepathic or something, in that the car did what he thought it would do, the steering, precision, handling dynamic and overall behavior of the car (particularly the power oversteer). I didn't put any of these words in his mouth - that's why I was saying, 8/9 guys aren't just making this stuff up - there is a genuine reason to prefer the car outside of ownership bias

 

Actually I'm not 29 and I don't care how I'm seen by the likes of you or anyone else you silly goose.
Also you stated no one cares about what professional automobile evaluating magazine or reviews have to say. That's just the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. EVERYBODY that is into high performance vehicles takes into consideration what these people say. EVERYONE that's into high performance cars has picked up a magazine or watched a video of an auto review, EVERYONE. Don't stay ignorant.

Also arguing other than stock performance isn't justifiable. You can never truly measure the degree of tunings between cars because every tune or modification impacts cars performances differently. We can only refer to stock because all cars a pretty equal stock with few exceptions. Modified cars are subjective. It's only logical to refer to stock in this case because tuned Evo X have been shown to put down enormous gains from simple bolt-ons as with Evo 9's.

I'm not arguing I just want you to state facts like the veteran you are on this site.
By the way check Evo times on the Nurburgring if you even know what that is and research some to find some Evo times.

Again, please show proof of the EVO 9 "DOMINATING" the EVO 10!!!!

Lol, no one cares about lateral g's? So why does every performance orientated vehicle get tested for it? I mean its just bullcrap figures right? Nothing to do with reality right?

Jeremy Clarkson is an auto enthusiast and an expert reviewer. Don't take his joking demeanor as a reason to dismiss his reviews. This man has driven almost any car you can imagine thoroughly. He has beaten on cars that we can only dream of sitting in. This man's words mean something. And he clearly states the Evo 10 is better than the Evo 9. Have you ever driven an Evo 9/10 FQ400? I sure haven't.

Another point is that you made clear he wasn't referring to stock cars. Instead he was referring to the CyberEvo or SS. Yet, as I looked back 10-15 times I can't see him mentioning either cars, so how is it you knew what he meant. Weird.

My observation at the tracks from all types of owners is that they love what they drive and it doesn't matter where they drive or what conditions are present they just love to driver their cars. My favorite cars have been the 98' ITR, 06' MR, 11' 335i xdrive and soon my 13' MR. You should see what happens when folks move up to the X. Then the next argument becomes GSR vs MR. Ridiculous. I love all Evo's. All Evo's are basically the same freaking car. Let's stop arguing snowflake to snowflake.

FTMFW!