Go enjoy your car. Drive it at a track against some 8's or 9's, hit up a drag strip. Then report back.

I don't even know why I bother.

 

wow... yes, in the real world, when you are actually racing, at a track or autox,, no one is going to ask you what your car pulls in a lateral g or even what your 0-60 is - it is a performance MEASURE. all that matters is what YOU can do, which is why i mentioned people living vicariously through their CAR's accomplishments. ie if you lose to a ix on the track are you gonna let him know what your lateral g's are? no of course not, bc it doesnt matter

lol ab jc. im not dismissing his review but im sure as hell not quoting him as the final word in the matter. another point on the fq models...... theyre the same models w more power, and can be easily replicated and surpassed.. plenty of documentation on this, there is nothing mysteriously good about them, and no more needs to be said about that.

Weird that I knew which cars he was referring to? I dont know that I was but if you've been around evo community long enough you know what the famous time attack cars are.. actually even if you havent been around you should have heard of at least the cyber evo.

usually i enjoy a spirited evo ix/x debate but this is just stupid. get out of the magazine/top gear bubble and learn about how your car actually performs in the real world. at least learn more ab the cars and drop the ego. i love how you try to insult that other guy implying he doesnt know what the nurburgring is... which, btw, there is no official time for the x's, while it was an 8:11 for the 9 in the wet... and if you really care about those times anyway, youve got issues.

lol i also love how you tell him to go look up some times lolol rather than go drive the car and make his own... bench racing at its finest.

 

I'm laughing because this post was histerical. You keep referring to me discussing lateral g's at an autox event. I'm just stating facts not fictional information on this thread. If you dont like it that's your problem. On top of it I was not even addressing you in the post I made about lateral g's. It just bothered you I wrote it.

And you just happen to know he was referring to the highly tuned cyber evo driven by Tarzan on a fairly small Japanese race event. He didn't state the cyber evo. You did. Because obviously that's the competition you base your arguement on. Not him. But for educational purposes Ok sure the evo 9 is currently holding the fastest lap time but then again there aren't any evo x from what I recall. So how can it be compared? Fail. Your boy that you so furiously defend still cannot post a proper defense to how and where its proven that the evo ix is DOMINATING the evo x.

And that statement that really made you look really ignorant was that there is no official x numbers on the Nurburgring. OMFG. Obviously you don't know much about the real racing world besides your local meets and autox events. The current evo ix time on this super track is 8:11.16. Evo x is 7:57. Now thats domination. I will give benefit of the doubt to the ix because it was indeed wet test.

 

http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/sho...7&postcount=39

lol

 

LOLOL i was hoping you would mention that exact time - nice wikipedia look up - as someone has already posted, that that lap time is a fake (http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/sho...7&postcount=39). like i said, bench racing at its finest. guess it made you look really ignorant instead... LOL nice job with those 'facts'

furthermore i don't even know the guy who you referred to as 'my boy' nor do i even know people who talk like that. like i said before, cyber evo and sierra sierra are two of the fastest ta cars period so i don't see where all of this "just happen to know" suspicion comes from. why don't you google "fastest time attack car" and see what comes up? As I said though, I don't even consider those cars evos anymore and I would much prefer looking at the evos running in the more reasonable classes in NASA and SCCA if I wanted an arguing point on that. In ASP and STU, yes, the 8/9s are dominating - ALL other cars in its class.

Great lateral g numbers for the X though

 

http://www.bridgetogantry.com/2/index.php/btg-laptimes
Ok heres another source for Evo X taking the 9 in with similiar power.
I'm not stating this is the overall bottom line factor determining anything. Just stating there's enough info on both cars on the almighty internet. You can percieve the info however you want. Both cars are good. No doubt about it.

 

Ah here you go:


that's only BTG so it cannot be compared to official times set on the closed track. still impressive as hell though.

 

Fair comparison.

 

http://www.worldtimeattack.com/index.../2012-results/

 

I saw this as well.I also saw the top ten time attack records. Very impressive. The evo 9 is def a marvel of automobile science. I wish there was an evo x on there to compare it to. That would be interesting. I also wish the evo x lost a few (hundred) pounds. But then it wouldnt feel as planted as it does now.

 

Not directed to anyone. Just i want to share my opinion in one post, if i am allowed.

nice if you need a comparision one basic thing you need for that is something to compere... LOL Where are the X's? Or they are not that fast , really? How about Gates car right here from the forum? LOL

In these type of internet things are cute, but then with a same idea , i can say the Best evo ever made is the Evo 2 right?

I think the debate is based on stock or close to stockish cars, since that is the most important for the majority of the Evo owners.
For me the best comparision is the rally, one simple reason why. They have to be the closest to stock in that type of racing, with very serious inspecting each race, by a very serious and qualifyed inspection by FIA officials. Not someone form the local club. (never mind a fact the evos are build by Grupe N specs from the factory, so i have a good reason why i do compere evos there. ) The class i am reffering is a Grupe N. Wich basically allows besides the mandetory safety build and equipments, suspension (coilovers) - brakes and ECU change , not even boost controller. So in that type of racing the X is just as fast a IX. So in close stock form, they are not really better form each other in racing. Keep in mind Only the USA the CT9A chassis came without AYC etc.
In fact the Evo II - IV is a great car for racing, so as the V or VI or VIII or IX so as the X. It is only matters in how much money and development you put it in, period. Sum it up : the X is just a good of a platform to build a race car on it, as any other evo before,period.

So in reality the whole debates boils down to the daily driving ,where the most peoplare using the cars. You like it or not. That is clear, as you go closer the newer generation they getting better, there is no arguement there. As i see from the comments.


But the best most amuzing part of these type of debates, when people brings up the racing , and they doesnt even go out personally to see a racing Evo or race they Evo, never mind to even have one racing Evo. And top of that, they are so up tight about they car, to be better then others . This is also true for evo X guys. Never mind to down talking others

So just let make a nice conclusion. In racing is really depends on your budget and time you willing to put in the platform you like. That is a the deciding point between Evos. Other then that , the Evo does what needs to do to survive. And that is: pass safety standars to be road legal, give at least an avarge comfort for the given area and class what other cars offers on the market, but a same time have a possibilty to build a great track or race - fun car with big possibilities as just any earlier versions had/have.

The X clearly did that, it is prooven many times in the past 5 years. Thast is a FACT. But a same time, evolved to the next level for those who doesnt need an all out race car. In short kept,the tradition, did brought and still brings many trophies - fame to our beloved Evolution family.

That is my honest opinion on this. Which is based on my creditencials and my own experience. Owning many different type of evos and Turbo AWD car.
In the USA since i landed, from 2004 for a had VIII- IX -X. I had them in car shows , race tracks and some daily driving. I am very contreversial , but active forum member, so i see and hear a lot. Of course i can be wrong on things, and of course i could be even biased, if you will. But maybe i have a good reason why.

Rob.

 

I agree with everything you say rob except one thing. I feel evo 9> owners belittle evo x owners much more than vice versa. Knuckle heads go as far as to say that the X isn't a real Evo just because its more comfortable and practical for daily living and no one can argue that. Those types of comment prove how stupid evo owners chose to be. I fully agree with Your comment that any evo is a great platform to develop a competitive car. So why is it that they bash the X so much? Is it envy? Fear? I don't know I can't ever figure it out. It even happens in real life.

I like all evos. Mitsubishi made no compromise with th X for the record.
So let's stop the condescending comments and pointless arguments on which car is faster and let's embrace our cars. Evos are the best cars out there and that is a FACT.

 

yeah, that's what I see too. I don't get it.

I bet back when they did the VI vs IX comparo on 5th gear people said EXACTLY the same thing. "It's been dumbed down for the masses"

I'd like to have a X, too, I just can't give up the IX, so it'll be a few years before that's possible. A VI would be a dream but it's too difficult in the US.

Any one you may have, you are winning in life to own such a brilliant car, be happy.

 

Wow, this is still going? Seriously, you guys need to go outside once in a while and just drive your cars.

 

Great video jamyers. It looks like people never accept change too easy.