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Old Feb 18, 2015 | 12:11 AM
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Because dealerships look for any reason to flake on the warranty.
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Old Feb 18, 2015 | 07:21 AM
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I don't get why everyone worries so much about warranties, as if the local dealership can prove that you took it to the track, or how you used it?
Actually, some modern engine diagnostics tools can tell things like if the car has been run for prolonged periods at high RPM's, like you would say at the track. I would not for a minute assume that the dealership cannot tell how you use the car.
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Old Feb 18, 2015 | 07:39 AM
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They're also not idiots. If you come in with shot front brake pads, and worn to **** tires, they'll know something is up.
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Old Feb 18, 2015 | 08:16 AM
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Ready to play with ours- first spot at the local dealers-

fun time!

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Old Feb 19, 2015 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by CBRD
Ready to play with ours- first spot at the local dealers-

fun time!

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Me too - although, it's gonna be a while...
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Old Feb 19, 2015 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by CBRD
Ready to play with ours- first spot at the local dealers-
lol, they haven't even announced details, let alone release date.
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Old Feb 19, 2015 | 10:54 AM
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lol, they haven't even announced details, let alone release date.
Not a bad idea to get a deposit down though, assuming you can find a dealer willing to take it. If it is a 2016 model, they should start showing up by late summer of this year.

Most dealers will probably only get 1 initially.
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Old Feb 19, 2015 | 11:03 AM
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so since I'm lazy and don't wanna read 8 pages... has US pricing been annouced? My sister needs to replace her STi and this is looking promising
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Old Feb 19, 2015 | 11:05 AM
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so since I'm lazy and don't wanna read 8 pages... has US pricing been annouced? My sister needs to replace her STi and this is looking promising
No price, no power details, no weight details, no release date, etc.
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Old Feb 19, 2015 | 11:11 AM
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No price, no power details, no weight details, no release date, etc.
oh... so all we got is turbo and AWD? well at least we know it won't be a boxer engine and eat a quart of oil a week...
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Old Feb 19, 2015 | 11:13 AM
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oh... so all we got is turbo and AWD? well at least we know it won't be a boxer engine and eat a quart of oil a week...
2.3L ecoboost, upgraded version of the Mustang 2.3L
AWD with mechanical rear torque vectoring (Like AYC)
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That's all the current details in a nutshell.
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Old Feb 19, 2015 | 12:45 PM
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nice cant wait to see what it can do
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Old Feb 19, 2015 | 10:55 PM
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Because dealerships look for any reason to flake on the warranty.
Sounds like you need a better relationship with your dealer, or to find a different dealer. Warranty work is bread and butter for a dealership; guaranteed payment (assuming its approved work), no one ever argues about having something covered under warranty, and a lot of times its money they would not see otherwise. Its in their best interest to cover as many warranty claims as possible, it keeps the customer happy and puts money in their pockets.

Having worked as a service manager at a power sports shop, we never turned down warranty work. Sure there were times that we had to deny a claim because the manufacturer turned it down, but we always fought for the customer, and NEVER turned down the claim ourselves.

I've received help from my GM dealer several times on items that could likely have been turned down, help from my Ford dealer with a few small things that could have easily been denied, and most recently help from my Mitsu dealer.

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Old Feb 20, 2015 | 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by CooperS7777
Sounds like you need a better relationship with your dealer, or to find a different dealer. Warranty work is bread and butter for a dealership; guaranteed payment (assuming its approved work), no one ever argues about having something covered under warranty, and a lot of times its money they would not see otherwise. Its in their best interest to cover as many warranty claims as possible, it keeps the customer happy and puts money in their pockets.

Having worked as a service manager at a power sports shop, we never turned down warranty work. Sure there were times that we had to deny a claim because the manufacturer turned it down, but we always fought for the customer, and NEVER turned down the claim ourselves.

I've received help from my GM dealer several times on items that could likely have been turned down, help from my Ford dealer with a few small things that could have easily been denied, and most recently help from my Mitsu dealer.
valid if local dealer wants to make money at fords expense. manufactures dont make money paying bogus warranty claims.

I for one am very tired of stupid americans who want to buy a car , modify it, abuse the crap out of it, break it. return car to stock in an attempt to play stupid, then complain when its not covered under warranty when it clearly shouldnt be.

this is for sure a good reason most manufactures dont build high performance cars on a whole. because of all the money they loose on bogus warranty work.
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Old Feb 20, 2015 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 94AWDcoupe
valid if local dealer wants to make money at fords expense. manufactures dont make money paying bogus warranty claims.

I for one am very tired of stupid americans who want to buy a car , modify it, abuse the crap out of it, break it. return car to stock in an attempt to play stupid, then complain when its not covered under warranty when it clearly shouldnt be.

this is for sure a good reason most manufactures dont build high performance cars on a whole. because of all the money they loose on bogus warranty work.
It is only an "American" thing in so far as most consumers do not understand the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act http://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/busin...l-warranty-law

Auto manufacturers don't seem to understand the law particularly well either, as they all too often try to completely void warranties for modifications. As if a new exhaust somehow affects your power windows motor.

Sometimes manufacturers even try to void your warranty for using features that come on the car, like launch control (cough GTR).
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