I said "Right..." because you're a newbie member claiming that you know some people who work for Ford that think the RS is a problem.

 

It's not just the RS, they're having a lot of problems with awd systems on most of their cars. They half assed the car into production. That's probably the reason why they stopped production until the next model year.

 

Just what this thread needs more of! Assumptions.

 

I want one also, but will wait until the late 2017-2018 MY's

For me that would also mean giving up 2 of our 4 cars if I was to buy soon. I'm not giving up the EVO!! I just can't do it man.

We'll see how much money I can stash away prior to Late 2017-2018, if Ford hasn't canceled them completely by then

 

In two years my Evo will be paid off.

So, hmmmm............ LOL

 

You're only assuming it's an assumption, mannnnn...

 

inception of assumptions?

 

"I took a street car to the track and something broke! The engineering is ****!"

Some day your friends will realize they don't actually know a thing about engineering (it took me a couple years) and pay attention to the old farts that seem like they're stuck in the 70s, but actually know what the hell they're doing. Engineering a street car isn't about making it fast on the track and never break, it's about balancing the demands of a lot of conflicting parties. Performance, price, quality, and reliability goals are all set (often by different groups), and those things are somewhat exclusive of each other. Throw in the time demands to meet a production schedule, and you end up with teething issues in early builds.

 

I don't disagree with you, but let me counter with this point. I remember when the X came out, it didn't have anywhere near the drivetrain issues that people have been talking about in the RS. And its a 10 year old design by comparison. Ford comes out with the RS and journalists are having trouble with stock power during testing? I never heard of reports like that in the X. I had heard about theating up the ACD pumps, but the car gives you a warning when that happens. What happens when customers turn up the heat on the RS? I agree with you on the balance in engineering bits, they cant make everything perfect, but when they're targeting this market (Rally Cars) they must have had to consider the X as the target to beat (even with its 10 year old design) and that they would need to leave room for improvement or a greater factor of safety on components. Right now its not clear if a stock RS is faster than a stock 10 year old X even with the ~50 hp advantage, yet initial reports point to the drivetrain being less durable. I'm not saying that its a crappy car and it forever will be, I'm saying there are concerns on the Quality of the Early models. They may rectify this in the future but from what I have heard Ford has been rushing a lot of their cars to market. I also recognize that the engineering may not be the driving factor in this. GM is pushing Vettes and Camaros as fast as they can make them and Dodge is moving Scat pack chargers and challengers as fast as they can make those.

 

The SAWC (ACD/AYC) system in the X has been in other mitsu's since the 90's. It was not a "new" system by any stretch of the imagination. It is a system that mitsu had been refining for 10+ years. Try again.


The one article I read where the RDU over heated, the guy was drifiting a racetrack for 4-5 laps, in drift mode. That's some serious punishment on the rear diff, and it's likely that drift mode was never intended to be used in that fashion.

 

So basically you're an Evo fanboy who is ignorant of the car's history, and oblivious to the issues that early production Evo Xs had. Great.

 

Like timing chain issues in the '08s and early '10s? Also tcase issues....lol

 

Somebody is forgetting the SST issues on track.... ACD pump issues... etc

Like others have already stated, AYC has been out since 99 in the Evo, among other things that the X has.

I thought we already filtered out the ignorance, assumptions and fanboism from this thread?

 

Its not as if real race cars never break parts. It takes a literal team of people to keep those things on the track, not to mention mountains of cash.

 

Without a center diff, the rear diff clutch packs are always slipping to some degree to get the power transmission characteristics they need. This is within their design parameters but the limits aren't known other than some power train guy saying additional power added, aftermarket, goes to the front. Who knows what the long term outcomes are? We will have to withhold judgement and wait.

Waiting isn't such a big deal because you have to really work to get one right now anyway.