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I'll prolly do a couple track days on the stock suspension first. its an SE so I think it has the MR Bilstiens... and if I do get the Ohlins, I'll run the standard springs first and see how that goes
but I need to get the car first... for all we know it could be complete trash and just look nice on CL
I'll prolly do a couple track days on the stock suspension first. its an SE so I think it has the MR Bilstiens... and if I do get the Ohlins, I'll run the standard springs first and see how that goes
I don't think the SE came with the Bilsteins. Easy enough to check when you go look at the car though. At 100K+ though I would suspect those stock struts are past due for a rebuild. Probably want to redo all the suspension bushings too.
I don't think the SE came with the Bilsteins. Easy enough to check when you go look at the car though. At 100K+ though I would suspect those stock struts are past due for a rebuild. Probably want to redo all the suspension bushings too.
yeah, bushings are a given with any car I get. thats another reason I'm kinda leaning away from an s2k, only powerflex makes poly bushings for it and powerflex sucks monkey *****. only choice is stock or metal bushings everywhere... where as the Z and Evo have every bushing available from whiteline and superpro, both awesome with lifetime warranty's
I did a ton a research on bushings, and went with full Group N Ralliart bushings for my Evo. They are OEM quality higher durometer rubber. No squeaking ftw!
I've had superpro on my rsx (my sisters now) for a year now, almost 20k miles, still no squeaking.
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also had poly bushings on my Mustang, not sure what brand, whatever BMR used before they switched to SuperPro. Had it since summer of '14 and 28k miles, no noise out of them either.
its really only crappy (quality and design) poly bushings that make noise *cough*powerflex*cough*
Last edited by WarmMilk; Feb 24, 2016 at 02:38 PM.
I have Whiteline and Energy bushings throughout and used the grease. No squeaking yet. How long did you guys run them before they started to make noise?
I have Whiteline and Energy bushings throughout and used the grease. No squeaking yet. How long did you guys run them before they started to make noise?
Being rubber, I do not expect my Ralliart bushings to ever squeak. Its primarily polyurethane bushings that squeak.
I'm wondering how long it usually takes. Mine aren't cheap, i was just curious to see if i'm outside the window. just in case. LOL
oh my bad, I never had any myself. powerflex on a miata (much lighter than evo) are typically done in a year or so. I'm not so sure about noise, but the start falling apart and losing their original shape
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my sister had whiteline bushings on her STi from ~20k to about 160, never wore out or made any noise. those aussies know how to make bushings. so you're good with your whiteline stuff. idk about energy, never used them (unless thats what was on the BMR stuff I bought)
Last edited by WarmMilk; Feb 24, 2016 at 04:20 PM.
Evo thing fell through. I sent him an email with a bunch of questions, some of them technical, and never got a response to that, also sent a follow up email. then a friend of mine emailed him just saying he was interested in the car and he replied to him right away. so my friend gave him my number and he texted me, we setup a time for me to see the car on friday (he had someone coming to see it on sat), then he texts me friday morning saying he can't make it. and its not on CL anymore. I'm assuming he sold it to whoever saw it on sat. Given the price and his hesitance to talk to me when I actually asked relevant questions about the car, I'm guessing it was a bit of a turd of an evo that looked pretty on CL. could be wrong though and who ever bought the car on Sat got a great deal...
anyway, I'm not broken up about it. I spent the weekend obsessing over my SC'd NC Miata idea... the more I look into it the more I like it. I talked to some people about how much they sell for at dealer auctions, if thats true, I can have a 230-250whp (torque included) NC with Wilwoods and Ohlins for roughly the same price as a decent stock AP2... and its about 2-300lb lighter... and with the SC it'll be a much broader and more usable powerband... and they're not nearly as high on the thief's list as s2k's are... and with the right wheels and stance, they look great too.
I'm kinda surprised at how good this looks
Last edited by WarmMilk; Feb 29, 2016 at 03:14 PM.
I've driven a seam-welded, fully-built (top to bottom) 260whp NA that was a little twitchy at high speed. With aero. Is the NC better?
Also, no way do I own a Miata without a fastback hard top.
I've driven a seam-welded, fully-built (top to bottom) 260whp NA that was a little twitchy at high speed. With aero. Is the NC better?
Also, no way do I own a Miata without a fastback hard top.
I've never driven an NC in anger, I have autox'd an NA though... a lot of people set them up to be twitchy, and part of the reason I went with NC over NA or NB, its a little bigger, little heavier, so it should be more stable. And based on my weekend of obsessing, I didn't see anything about the NC being twitchy...
the main reason is NA and NB require a stand alone ecu (or piggy backs, and I don't like piggy backs) for boost, that means I can't pass emissions. Whereas with the NC the stock ecu can be reflashed with ecutek (with no lift shifting and automatic blipping on downshifts ) and switchable maps and all that
Fast back top is cool though, do they make one for the NC?
yeah, kinda what I was thinking, but its a cool feature for whats basically a reflash... I'll try it out and see how it works, I'm thinking on track I'll still heelntoe. it sounds nice for lazy street driving though
I think if you buy an older generation Miata, you will always wish you had the new one instead. A 2016 with a Blackbird Fabworx rollbar is beautiful http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=590281