An SRT-4 stock will pull on a Evo stock from a rolling start.

SRT-4 is a great bang for the money. The apprearance is just a personal opinion. I look at it like this. My opinion is that I don't like the looks of the Neon. With that said, it is everything I have ever wanted in a $20,000 car, but it is still a Neon. Dodge was really on top of things when they designed it, but I would have went with different exhaust and a different wing, for sure (it is FWD - no need for the wing, it is a 4 cylinder - one engine bank but two exhause pipes??eh, that's Honda-like).

Now, if they made a US Lancer that was turbo from the factory for under $20,000, I am sure he wouldn't have bought the Neon. And remember, with that Neon, he is just as close as DSM as any of us are right now, which is kinda where all this started in the first place. It is just like a distant cousin (Evo had the 4g63, Eclipse got the 4g63, Eclipse got the 420a, Neon got the 420a, Evo got the Lancer body, Neon got the Mitsu turbo.) I look at the SRT-4 as nothing less than a relative, and I welcome it as family.

Josh

 

im not going to lie, those SRT-4's do pull, ive seen a kit that cost around $500 on http://www.atpturbo.com/turbopiping/...geNeonSRT4.asp
Components:
· 3 Inch T304 Stainless Downpipe
· 3 Inch Transition Race-Pipe (*Off-Road Only)
· Boost Controller at 16 PSI

They have a video and dyno's sheets. For $500 to be in high 12's is good!

 

It's a neon. end of story. Dodge, should have marketed this under a different nameplate. NOT DODGE. and NOT NEON. TOO many problems with my old Dodge, that weren't covered under warranty, so make sure you have room on your credit car, or maybe even take out a second on your home while rates are still low.

 

What's with the subject line?

"Not the wanna be Lancer.."

I'm gonna wanna kick your butt if you keep making fun of the Lancer. What Dodge needs to do is change the name of the Neon. What I like about the Lancer is I can make it into a sleeper car...well, when I drop a turbo in. LoL~

 

hey if you dont like your lancer anymore leave the forum. if not stay.

As for the neon my buddy works at the local dodge dealer and says he has seen trouble with 1/2 of thesrt-4's sold (turbo is a peice of ****).

 

That's sad to say since it is a Mitsu turbo and a 16G at that. Those have been on some of the baddest Mitsu cars ever sold to the public. I would want to know what is so ****ty about that particular 16G that makes it so bad. Can you find out what kind of problems they are seeing with those turbos?

Josh

 

i like srt-4s i think they look like sleepers the onlything that lets everybody know its fast is the front mount. CONGRATS! hope you have fun with it.

 

by just lookin at how you hook up your white lancer, you have no style in making car look nice. so what if you got a faster car now?? fast and ugly, that just throw you in with them stupid hatchback with their huge annoying muffler. theres also no way you could have smoke those WRX and btw an integra type r nonturbo will still smoke your neon. ya im hating too

 

After owning a Dodge and having many, many, problems with it. Not to mention how many friends and coworkers that have had them and have had many problems. I will never buy another Dodge. I don't care if it runs 9's stock and costs $20. F%$k Dodge.

 

Exactly

 

did you get dodge's infamous purple color neon?

 

I won't hold my breath considering the problems myself and others have had with Dodge products. Not just the neon.

 

Long post, beware......


The Neon is a cousin to us all. Let me explain:

In 1990, we received the DSM lineup in the US. These included the Talon, Eclipse, and Laser from Eagle, Mitsubishi, and Plymouth, respectively. These cars were offered in either a 1.8 liter, 2.0 liter, or a 2.0 liter turbocharged engine. the 2.0 N/A and turbo were both the 4g63. You could even get any one of the DSM's in all wheel drive, as long as it was a 4g63 turbo.

In 1991, the Galant VR4 was introduced in the US, which also contained the 4g63 turbocharged engine as well as all wheel drive and all wheel steering (but the AWS sucked and leaked like you couldn't imagine).

In 1992, Japan revamped their Lancer and made it into a rally car, called the Evolution. It had the 4g63 engine with turbo and all wheel drive, very similar to the DSM's of the same kind. this was also the year that the Galant VR4 sales were halted in the US.

In 1994, Evo 2 came along and the rear axle LSD was introduced.

In 1995, Evo 3 was the new design. The DSM's also got a facelift. The Laser was dropped from the lineup, while the Talon and Eclipse continued (actually, I think the Laser stopped production back in 92). The 2nd generation DSM's now had different engines. In the turbo models, the 4g63 was still used, but there was no N/A 4g63 available. Instead, for non-turbo DSM's, it was now a 2.0 liter engine called the 420a. The 420a was also found in another Chrysler product, the Dodge Neon.

In 1996, Evo 4 was born and the 4g63 was revamped and the AYC was added.

In 1998, The Evo 5 was introduced, and I am pretty sure that this was the first year that they used Brembo brakes.

In 1999, the DSM lineup came to a close. The 4g63 was not sold on any US market car after 1999. This was also the year of the Evo 6, and about half way through the year, they released the Tommi Makinen Edition. The TME had specially tuned suspension for tarmac rally. Since it came out half way through the production year, this is why you hear of TME's as being "Evo 6.5's"

In 2001 the Evo 7 launched. It was the first non-rally car that had an anti-lag kit installed on every motor. Although it was not active unless the owner enabled it, it was still incorporated into every production Evo.

In 2002, the base model Lancer came to the US. Even though it didn't incorporate all wheel drive or the 4g63 motor that was used throughout the DSM lineup or the Evo history, it still shared the same basic body as the current Evo..

In 2003, the Evo 8 is released worldwide, including in the US. The Evo 8 still has the 4g63 turbo engine as well as all wheel drive. Around the same time, Chrysler releases a new form of the Neon, the SRT-4. The SRT-4 has a larger 2.4 liter motor with the A853 engine code, but it is turbocharged with a 16G Mitsu Turbo. The 16G is the turbo that has been found on the Evo for all of its life.

So, in conclusion, the Neon is related to the DSM's because of the parent company and also from engine specs, and it is related to the Evo through parent comany and turbo specs. In one way or another, you COULD even say that the SRT-4 is like the "Neon Evo 1".

Kinda scarry, isn't it?


I am sure there are many other similarities between the cars, but this is all the info that I can pull off the top of my head about their histories.

It will be nice to see if the SRT-4 brings about a new age of $20,000 cars that can pack as much punch as the Neon can from the factory. It's just a personal preference if you like the look of it or not, but I don't think that anyone can honestly say that the SRT-4 is lacking in the performance category as far as 4 cylinder compact cars go.

Josh

 

This is why the SRT-4 is in my opinion a great car. Morons think its just a Neon, a piece of ****, etc. and then get their doors blown off. Nothing better than catching a Camero owner off guard. I looked at an SRT-4, it has some very nice bits on it. Trim and fit & finish wise though, its inferior to the Lancer I currently own. But to care about that would be forgetting the SRT-4s main goal, crazy fast for crazy cheap.

Its quite amusing to see the owners of regular Lancers react to a car that is superior in every performance area. Oh, by the way, Im sure SCCA showroom stock class winners would love you all to clue them in how much their Neons suck while they are winning races......lol

 

I just wonder how many of the OZ Rally Edition owners out there are busting on the SRT-4. Calling it a wannabe ricer and whatnot. What is the need for all this? Like I have said before, I don't like the styling of the SRT-4, but I have to give it a thumbs up in the performance department. For all you OZ Rally Edition owners out there that are ripping on the new SRT-4 owners, do you remember how you felt the first time someone asked you how in the hell your car could be a "rally" car? I remember the first time I saw a OZ. A guy I worked with bought ont. I looked it over, he was happy as ****. I am an avid Mistu fan, but I was totally pissed about this car. I asked him how in the hell they could call it rally when it was a FWD. Now, granted, there are some FWD rally cars out there, but how many Lancer's that are in WRC are FWD? I gave him so much **** because I didn't understand the car. He felt so bad about it, it was evident. I was a complete *** to him and would try to race him every chance I got in my GSX. He sold the car like 3 months later because everyone at the shop ragged on him about his "rally" car. I look back on it and realize it was stupid of me to do. Now that I have seen more of them, I lreally like the Lancer. It took some warming up efore I was ready to accept it on the US market without the Evo counterpart, but once I realized the Evo was really comming, I started checking out the Lancers more and more. Hopefully, you all will see the SRT-4 as just another car trying to reach the same goals that we all are trying for. You might not like the SRT-4, you might even end up loving it. Who knows. Dodge might have ****ty reliability, but look at the Evo clutch/tranny problems that are out there now. Every car has it's issues. I don't think any of us have the right to pick on anyone else for the car preferences that they have.

Good luck with the SRT-4.

Josh